Ronald Reagan Makes Racist Comment To Richard Nixon

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racists generalize based on race. Conservatism isn’t a race.
     
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    I just told you which part. Reagan referred to blacks as monkeys. You said that he spoke the truth. So you think it is true that blacks are monkeys. No clarification is needed, honestly. But I do thank you for the entertainment.
     
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    If you hadn't noticed, the subject of the OP is REAGAN. So rather than just say you do not agree with what he said, y'all went into full mode deflection. Funny isn't it.
     
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    Like they'd do so much better. I don't see any African Nation that ever elected a Trump
     
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    So a cheap shot is all you got?

    I am not a righty, but I condemn his comment, how he handled Iran-Contra, and his gun control measures in CA aimed at people of color. (And Bedtime for Bonzo)
     
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    Very good. The act is the same while the group is different. One who holds bias towards sex, religion, political beliefs, etc may not be racists, but are no better.
     
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    Yes the comment can be viewed as racist but then go listen to tapes of LBJ. The question is were they racist. No. I bet if we had tapes of everything MLK or Elijah Cummings said in their lives we could find something similar. And let's not forget this is being viewed from the prism of today not of the times when it was uttered.
     
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    But they were the home of the KKK and welcomed the KKK when it had any significance.
     
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    Reagan is long dead.............THankfully
     
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    The 1970's was during the Cold War.
    Do you remember how many Cold War proxy wars were being fought in Sub Sahara Africa ?
    During WW ll Japs were referred to as monkees and during the Cold War those third world people who aligned with the USSR were referred to as monkees.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars#Cold_War_proxy_wars
     
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    Reagan - like Maggie Thatcher - was a Social Darwinist. I would say his comments are more reflective of this ideology than racism.
     
  12. JakeStarkey

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    As did the GOP in IN, OH, CA, and WA.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Really

    "Waite reports: “California Klansmen generally assaulted Chinese immigrants and their white employers, while occasionally threatening Republican politicians and journalists as well.” The tactics playing out in the South were becoming prevalent in the Golden State."
    https://crosscut.com/2017/03/histor...local-roots-west-california-washington-oregon

    Which party did the Dixiecrats all go back to after they lost their political bid in 1948?
     
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    But then a much worse LBJ quote appeared, you were silent about it. I guess that means you approve.

    See how that works?
     
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    Don't forget JFK knew Vietnam was doomed but wouldn't pull out because it would hurt his re-election. It took a Republican POTUS to do that.

    Trump is not high on foreign entanglements. IMHO we can get out of Afghanistan now and let them go full Taliban for all I care, it's what a lot of those people want.
     
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    Your isolated quote means little about CA, nothing about the GOP in the other states.

    They all were Democrats in the first place, and their candidate, Strom Thurmond, like hundreds of thousands of conservative members eventually migrated to the southern GOP.
     
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    It just shows how deep and long our country, has been racist.
    Still is today. Not as bad as 20+ yrs ago. But it is still bad.
    It was common and encouraged to be racist. Today, not so much. But it takes generations to change ideology.
     
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    I agree.
    But it does show, just how common and how deep racism has been in the history of the USA.
    It's why it is such a hot topic and how it is so hard to not use skin color as a judge of people.
     
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    No need to cite any others it was a perfect example. And oh the Thurmond canard, he was ONE MAN not a movement and it was after he had changed his positions on civil rights after the Republicans finally won the the battle. I was part of the growing Republican base in the South and it was not because Republicans were going to bring back Democrat segregation and racism. The Democrat segregationist died off or lost office they didn't all suddenly switch to the party they had fought against to keep their segregation.
     
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    Again, just show how ingrained and deep racism is in USA history.
    Afterall, it was basically founded on racism. Slavery and all.
     
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    Maybe it is genetic.

    Sort of like some Robert E. Howard reference to "tribal memory".

    Could be axking too much of ourselves to go against "nature".


    As a model, consider all the Australian Black aborigine lawyers, doctors, etc. ;)
    Just axk @Sallyally
     
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    Yes, it was. The Dems were conservatives and moved over to the Republicans, and, yes, they wanted to but failed in keeping the South segregated Thank you for recognizing that fact. The conservative Democrats bolted the increasingly liberal Southern Democratic Party.
     
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    They were Populist and the growth of the Republicans had nothing to do with segregation which the Republicans fought for decades to end as I noted.
     
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    Yes, people are fleeing liberalism, but that has nothing to do with racism.
     
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    That argument was rebutted twenty years ago, and need not be argued again. I was in the South from the early seventies and I watched those segregationist good old boys move over from Dem to Pub in the next decade or so.
     
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