Rouhani warns: ‘War with Iran is the mother of all wars’

This guy needs a better threat. Recycling Sadams catch phrase after we destroyed his army and air force in about five minutes? LMAO

"Peace with Iran is the mother of peace,” Rouhani said. “War with Iran is the mother of all war.”


https://www.foxnews.com/world/rouhani-warns-war-with-iran-is-the-mother-of-all-wars

 

They all say that.

 

Yes, may be mentionning a war which enabled the rise of ISIS, one of the most evil thing since Pol Pot and the SS isn't the best idea.

 

I suspect that was intended. British Intelligence told them that there were no Al Qaeda types in Iraq but that the very thing which would put them there would be an invasion. British intelligence also told them that an attack on Iraq would likely bring Islam terrorists to the streets of London. British Intelligence also told them that contrary to what they were saying there were no WMD's which would be able to reach London in 45 minutes which they were telling us - so no genuine reason for the war with Iraq but a genuine knowledge that they would increase Islamic terrorism by such an attack and that such terrorism would reach Europe, It is difficult not to think that was the genuine reason for the Iraq invasion.

That being said many American's are so arrogant that they cannot hear what people are saying now. The last time they mainly killed Muslims and managed to bring Islamic terrorism to Europe which they must have wanted to do as they knew this would be a result of a war with IRAQ. ...but not at that time to the US so to them if it was only Muslims and Europeans being killed that would be just fine. This time they will feel it themselves and it is most certainly not just Iran who is saying this. There own people are.

Possibly only by that can some Americans start to understand what they have been doing to the people of the ME and begin to get some humanity again. By being able to continual kill and cause killing with no consequence on them, they have lost their humanity.

 

We have them all standing in line to tease us.
China, Turkey, Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Afghanistan and maybe Denmark.

 

That's what Saddam said too.....what happened to him??? Anyone know?)

 

You identify Rouhani with Saddham? Unbelievable. Best to know who you want to kill. You will probably have the Brits until Corbyn is elected - though your oh so democratic Statesman Pompeo has promised your oh so totalitarian Government will make sure he never becomes PM.

You should also note you will not have Europe with you. Problem with Rouhani is that he apparently like Zarif refused an invitation to meet Trump. Macron has denied trying to entice him to the G7 for a secretly set up meeting!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-invited-rouhani-to-g7-summit-idUSKCN1UX0QA

You Americans are such good allies of the UK. Love it when we die for you but should we like the Palestinians be democratic enough to vote in who you do not want, then death will be sent to these shores if Pompeo is to be believed.

 

Yes....cry me a river....we also will await that 3AM phone call when the chips are down. Talk to you then).

 

Rouhani warns: ‘War with Iran is the mother of all wars’

Somehow I can't seem to picture the Pentagon quaking in its boots.

 

Actually Obama and his inaction enabled Isis. He called them the junior varsity and ignored them until they got so powerful they established a caliphate and ruled vast areas killing and torturing and terrorizing at will

 

Then why did the Brits participate in the overthrow of Saddam?

 

So you take Irans threats seriously ? You don't think we'd destroy their military in a few days?

 

I would rather says it's his action in Syria. Iraq was a full disaster, the USA lost around 5000 people in that war if I remember well, and got more than 30 000 people wounded. As far as I know, it doesn't take in account all the vet with mental damage, such as PTSD. It is important to notice that in that kind of war, you loose often people with sense of responsibility, duty and not the freeloaders or the criminals.
To that, we could add the financial damage. The USA went heavily in debt for this war.

Despite being a military victory, the war in Iraq is a huge defeat for the USA, from a financial point of view, diplomatic point of view and aswell and more important a disaster considering the one you lost.

I doubt that Iran is that much a threat. Iran isn't good friends with the saudi arabia and israelian, I suspect those two people to try to use the US as their pawn to destroy Iran. Iran can be dealed with in a diplomatic way. You just have to wait it fall like a roten fruit, like the USSR.

 

We don't know what would have happened if Sadahm would have stayed in power after shooting at US planes enforcing the no fly zone and slowly but surly ignoring the treaty he made with the UN. Could have ended better Gould have ended worse.
Isis made its last stand in Syria but it established a huge caliphate in Afghanistan and Iran under Obama. Trump took care of business.

 

I guess the phraseology being misquoted and mistranslated about the "mother of all battles is meant to allow foolish minds to equate what a war with Iran would really look like to war with Iraq. You never really know with wars and what they would look like, because they are unpredictable and tactical mistakes, strategic decisions, treachery, and all sorts of extraneous factors that are hard to control can affect their outcome. That said, it really requires someone to be ignorant and foolish to imagine that war with Iran wouldn't pose substantial risks of the kind of utter catastrophe for the US, US forces, US bases, its allies, and the world economy, that has been thus far the only reason the US has started all sorts of wars with all sorts of countries but avoided one with Iran.

 

Keep stealing ships and we may find out.

 

The Pentagon do not agree with war with Iran. You may want young Americans killed because you went against your honour and reneged on a treaty so that you could go to war with Iran, so that you could try to destroy Iran. The United States is the one in the wrong and it is not improbable that this will end your No 1 position in the world.

With all your trying all you can get for your maritime force in the Gulf is the United Kingdom which is currently a pawn of yours and Israel who you love much more than the USA.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...19-08-07&utm_medium=email&utm_term=2019-08-08

Apart from Israel and the UK and of course your beloved Saudi Arabia/UAE the whole world is against you. You have misused the privilege you were given by the dollar being the world's reserve country. You have bullied, starved and killed the people of the world. The US has pretended to its people that it is more or less a democracy but it is a Plutocracy. It is run by Corporate Power and is currently losing the one thing it cherished as well as guns - the right to free speech as is seen both with Assange and with its stance on BDS.

I just hope the UK elects Corbyn and gets out of your stranglehold. Then the US will be with like minds. Israel, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. They will be all you have left and that is because of your behaviour.

 

Why is everything middle eastern "The Mother Of" something or other when everything they have or do is the red headed step child? I'm sorry but a couple dozen sports boats with guys carrying AK's is not very impressive when faced with a battle cruiser sporting a Phalanx system. Blowing up part of a barge made to look like a mini aircraft carrier is pretty pathetic, especially if you cannot even sink it and tow it back.

 

If any of what you said was actually factually correct or true, then you might have a point. But, alas, you don't know what you are talking about, possibly reading too many propaganda pieces from FOX and similar outlets. For now, let me just correct you on a few points, and make a few others, without unduly disturbing you in your dreams.
1- Iran's navy has plenty of vessels of various shapes and sizes. They include modern warships built in Iran, like the frigate Sahand shown in the video below, which is one of half a dozen larger warships Iran has built in recently. And you can watch their exercises in the video clip below if larger vessels somehow impress you.
2- Iran's fleet of speedboats, which themselves come in various forms to include models recording the highest speeds in the world, is estimated at around 3,000 such boats. Iran has used up to 500 in some of its exercises.
3- Most of Iran's speedboats are armed with anti-ship cruise missiles. When a swarm of such boats come at you flying their missiles, they can overwhelm your defenses. Something that the US learned in the Millennium 2002 Challenge war game, where it lost 19 major warships and thousands of servicemen to a fictional opponent playing Iran.
4- Iran has one of the largest fleets of submarines in the world. While many of them (not all) are small submarines, they are ideally suited to fight in the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf. In fact, Iran's Ghadir mini-subs present a bigger danger to US warships than our bigger submarines, simply because they can maneuver and hide much better in the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf, while they have been equipped with a unique cruise missile launch system that makes it difficult to trace the launch to its source. You can watch the video below and if you need to, I can explain this for you further.
5- Iran is one of a few countries in the world with anti-ship ballistic missile capability and those ballistic missiles can sink pretty large ships, including potentially aircraft carriers.
6- In case of war with Iran, the US navy itself knows it will need to first take out its forces and vessels out of the Persian Gulf. They are sitting ducks there. Indeed, the first sure sign the US is serious about engaging Iran in a war is not if it builds up its forces there, but takes them out.

Here are some videos and pictures from Iran's last major naval exercise in February 2019.

 

While I find it likely you believe in everything you posted...I prefer subjective reality based data to form opinion. I also have a little video for YOU:

 

I will take the time and give you sources you will even probably trust for everything I said. Just ask.

For now, let me just say this: the video you posted is decent enough, but is not sufficiently informed about Iran's capabilities. For instance, it doesn't review a range of Iranian capabilities (including missiles) that are far more dangerous to the US aircraft carriers than merely the Ghadir anti-ship missile which the video focuses on! While the Ghadir anti-ship missile is important as it can be fired in large numbers to overwhelm US defenses, the kill against a US aircraft carrier will not come from a Ghadir anti-ship missile. It will come from Iran's anti-ship ballistic missiles (Khalij Fars, Hormuz, and Fateh Mobin). You can read about them in the article below, even though the source is ultimately an anti-Iran propaganda site.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...rans-missiles-they-could-strike-us-navy-57832
We Need to Talk About Iran's Missiles (They Could Strike the U.S. Navy)
Be worried.

Here is a video of the kind of anti-ship ballistic missiles I am talking about:

 

In the meantime, if Iran's systems weren't a danger to US forces in case of war, the established US doctrine wouldn't be to first pull out its naval forces if war broke out!

Incidentally, while I disagree with many of the comments and assessments in this report, I would encourage you to read it carefully so we can begin having an intelligent discussion based at least some facts. This report is from the US "Military Times", written by US military veterans who interviewed top US general and military experts for their report:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/06/04/what-war-with-iran-could-look-like/
What war with Iran could look like

 

I understand the sabre rattle mindset you are attempting to project but to put it very bluntly, Iran would not be stupid enough to attack the United States if only because they KNOW what the response would inevitably be. You may very well get off a couple lucky or well directed shots but, whatever fired would be very quickly destroyed and you could not replace it. To be honest with you....just ONE of the many Carrier groups is fully capable of decimating Iranian defense and offense capabilities within a couple weeks. Likely we would have a couple more waiting just out of range as well for assurance.

That is fact, not sabre rattling.

 

I am not the one sabre rattling; nor am I suggesting Iran will be the one to start the conflict. But there are some basic facts that you just have wrong. One of those facts, which are pretty indisputable to me, is that the US does not have the capability to take out Iran's vast arsenal of ballistic missiles. Iran has the largest arsenal of such missiles in the region and only US, Russia and China have more missiles than Iran. But their quantity aside, their quality, the size of the country, their mobility, the fact that many are housed in underground missile cities, and experience from various conflicts (e.g., Desert Storm, where the US couldn't even take out Saddam's puny Scud missiles which had to operate from a very defined and rather small area; Israel-Hezbollah war, where despite flying more sorties than all of its prior wars, Israel couldn't stop the constant launch of missiles and rockets at Israel at a rate of around 100 a day; the Saudi war against the rag tag Houthis...) all show that to be the case.

 

I just hope it never comes to finding out who is correct here, but believe you should be even more hopeful instead of seemingly hoping for it.