Roy Moore stands with homophobic supporters

Why not be against all sexual predators? I stand with Mitch McConnell and Jeff Sessions on this one. "I believe the women."

My metric is molestation is worse than non-contact sexual harassment and rape is worse than molestation. Unwanted kissing and grabbing of the buttocks, while unacceptable, is on the lower scale of infractions. That is where Al Franken is. Then there is masturbating pervs like Louie C. K. Franken has owned up and asked forgiveness and asked that an investigation against him be undertaken by the senate. Meanwhile, I don't believe any right-winger accused has admitted to it. There is condemnation all through Hollywood against the liberals accused, but in Alabama they are actually considering whether a Democrat is worse than a child molester. I don't know how anyone who puts politics over the well-being of children can call themselves a Christian. I think we'll see how many phony Christians there are in Alabama by just counting the Moore votes.

 

Moore has already been removed twice from the office of Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, which is an elected position. His offenses were refusing to enforce SCOTUS orders, which were installing a huge ten commandments monument sneakily in the middle of the night so no one would see and ordering his court clerks to refuse to issue lawful marriage licenses to same sex couples.

 

True.

Upon taking office, senators-elect must swear or affirm that they will "support and defend the Constitution." That is a requirement of the constitution and the oath is prescribed by law.

He's already proven that he is unwilling to do do that.

There is now plenty of evidence that he is a sexual predator.

But, it's not as if he were qualified in the first place.

 

Any of the many who are witnessing against this scuzzbag (including victims and those who have been part of banning him from the mall and otherwise witnessing his behavior) could be sued by him.

It's true the voters can make up their own mind.

To me, this is a referendum on the morality of the religious fundamentalists of Alabama, who have the clear majority in that state.

There will be analyses of the election results. I'm definitely going to be interested to see where Alabama puts their morality - in their actions or in the toilet.

 

If the CITIZENS of Alabama decide that Roy Moore is more important than a Democrat your party has huge problems going into 2020!

 

Will you just admit there have been many people in the past who were paid to lie about all sorts of things both on the stand and off?

 

We don't really know what he did back then, just what they said he did and we don't even know if it is true. Can any of you admit it is possible for someone to pay women to say these things?

 

Not all of them are conservatives, even in my home state of Arkansas, a red state, and my small town there are liberals here as well.

 

We know Moore is motivated to lie concerning his sexual degeneracy.

No one has shown any evidence that any of these women, staunch Republicans in at least two cases, who have provided multiple, consistent, corroborated accounts of his fixation with teenage girls, were induced to participate in any sort of sinister conspiracy.

If those that pretend that all have been paid to lie can "follow the money" and demonstrate their speculation concerning financial incentive is supported by actual evidence, they should certainly do so.

If there are enough White evangelical low-education Moore supporters in Alabama who prioritize partisanship and ideology over morality, hypocrisy will triumph and Moore will be inflicted on Republicans in the US Senate who, despite their expressed repugnance, will endure the stench.

 

What do you call the irrational love of homosexuals?

 

LOVE.

 

I will say that for me, its a whole different kettle of fish to nullify the affects of a bone fide election, especially when the voters damn well knew the charges against their chosen senator/ representative/ governor/ president on moral or legal grounds. Not much of a fan of expelling senators or removing Presidents without a LOT more than accusations of sexual impropriety. You can easily do more harm to an institution by getting in the habit of allowing the fruits of these scandals to succeed to formal expulsion, than by riding out the tenure.

If the voters have spoken on the same information available... its a lot harder to justify ignoring what they said and ramming a different decision down their throats. It is an effective disenfranchisement of a hell of a lot of voters.

its when these constitutuants/ country don't know or when this alleged impropriety happened between elections that these investigations serve a real purpose.

 

I dont beieve the women

And too much time has passed for them to have any credibility now

Roy moore has been blemidh free for 40 years

Either the woman are lying or he is a changed man

Take your pick

 

Not my party. I'm not a Democrat. Doug Jones looks like a solid choice, though. If AL voters choose a child molester over Doug Jones, that says nothing good about them.

 

Kellyanne Conway, for example.

But that is not an excuse to ignore the numerous pieces of evidence against Roy Moore - or his own record of flouting our constitution in the very face of our Supreme Court.

He can not even truthfully take the oath of office of a US Senator.

I'm shocked at the Republican party support for this guy, especially out of a region that claims to be so specially and divinely motivated by moral values.

 

Then why aren't states protected by the 10th Amendment from being required to recognize gay marriage ?

 

The same sex marriage ruling by the Supreme Court was based on the 14th amendment.

A state has the freedom to offer pretty much whatever it wants to offer to its citizens. Marriage is one thing states offer.

The 14th amendment is interpreted to mean that states must make their offerings in a way that treats us all as equal under the law. Individuals in the US are all to be treated as equal.

There are exceptions to equal treatment. However, in such cases there must be an explicit reason for treating someone differently and the reason must pass judicial review.


In the case of same sex marriage, states which wanted to discriminate presented no argument that could pass judicial review.

It's a little more complicated than that, but those are the basics.

 

Because "marriage" is not a federal law or program. It is a state law that, if the state decides to enforce, then it must be enforced in a manner consistent with the US constitution.

And that means, in this case, that the right of marriage must comply with the Equal Protection clause and thus, afforded to same sex couples.

 

maybe it's because even a flawed republican is better than a democrat.

 

Where is the evidence he did anything wrong?

 

If multiple, consistent accounts of his depravity by folks with nothing to gain by fabricating and coordinating their revelations are refuted to the satisfaction of enough Alabama voters by his self-interested denials, he'll become the Republicans' embarrassment in Congress.

That's okay.

 

There are other Republicans in Alabama, I'm told.

Plus, it's ridiculous to even suggest that the Democrat running for the Alabama Senate seat is worse than Moore. After all, it seems pretty clear that Moore can't even truthfully take the required oath of office.

 

If he wins the election then that is what the people want.

 

If he is voted in that would mean the public believes him more than his accusers.

 

The consistent testimony of his accusers is overwhelming, there is no evidence of a coordinated conspiracy, nor of a common motivation to lie that remotely approaches his self-interest in doing so.

The reality is that there are hyper-partisans that accept the revelations of his perfidy, yet prefer to send a known molester of teenagers to Congress who espouses a far-right agenda to a moderate that does not embrace so radical an ideology.

Some, evoke the rationale that his degenerate bahaviour was forty years ago and that excuses his lying about it now, and some insist that it wasn't as perverted as folks like Sessions, Shelby, McConnell, and Ryan regard it, but many grasp do that he did what is confirmed by multiple first-hand witnesses without any reason to fabricate, and are just hellbent on voting for him anyway.