RT News --- Who Killed JFK?

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I stated no conspiracy theory.

    I asked you for evidence.
    Grandiose claims are not evidence and anyone making them is a liar and coward.

    You made them boy.
     
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    You've been spouting your conspiracy theory about Oswald shooting bullets that go straight, turn left, turn right, then reverse and go back in the opposite direction. Of all the conspiracy theories I've heard that is the most outrageous. :roflol:
    More hyperbole. Still no evidence for your Oswald conspiracy or anything else, just hyperbole and nothing more.

    Now, what evidence do you have that Oswald shot THE MAGIC BULLET? Hmmmmm? I asked you for proof. Your idiotic claims are not evidence and anyone making them is a liar and coward. And then there is the question of my security clearance. Still no evidence refuting that fact? Hmmm? The burden of proof is on you and you have a lot of work to do .... so get moving, girl!
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    No I have never said any such thing and in fact I specifically pointed out how no one made such a claim.

    Oswald acting alone is by definition not a conspiracy theory as a conspiracy by definition involves more than one person.

    Oswald did not shoot any magic bullet at all it is you claiming he did.

    Grandiose claims are not fact.

    No the burden of proof is on you now fire away youngster
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    For your general information the Warren Commission report never describes Oswald firing a bullet which did anything magical such as turning or pausing or reversing itself.

    So who is defending such an idea?
     
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    More hyperbole and nothing else. No proof. No evidence. No fact. I am still waiting for your evidence. Where is it? It is you who is defending the magic bullet conspiracy. But where is your evidence for it? Hmmm? It is easy to say that a bullet can turn every direction and back again but the burden of proof for it is yours. So .... where is your proof? You're just perpetuating a silly conspiracy theory. Anybody can do that. But you offer no evidence for it so you are fooling no one, sonny. And then there is the matter of my security clearance. Where is your proof that I've never had such a clearance? You're having great difficulties providing proof or even evidence to support your crazy claims, sonny. You should go to sleep and maybe tomorrow you will be inspired by new fantasies. Good luck! :laughing:
     
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    No I am not defending the magic bullet theory I have specifically attacked and refuted it.

    One more time the Warren Commission report made no mention of such a bullet.

    No one in the government claimed that any bullet turned every direction and back again.

    SO explain how I am defending it?

    And it is my guess you never had a clearance. Much like it was your ignorant guess that I never served.

    The difference is that wisdom teaches when people make grandiose claims which cannot be proven that they are lying.

    Now explain who described a bullet acting so magically as such a claim or description is not in the Warren Commission report.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Big claims are always by those who cannot contribute to an intelligent debate. It is a silly diversion and nothing more. You have no evidence - you have no proof - you have no credibility. Go to bed now.
     
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    And you made the big claim.

    I did not.

    I stated nothing requiring evidence or proof.

    I stated no theory and no assertion which needs to be proven.

    You said it was impossible for Oswald to have done what he is accused of doing THAT statement requires some evideence and you have not even tried to post any.

    Which was all I asked for.

    But seriously just answer the question. Who claimed the bulelt paused and turned and reversed direction?

    I never defended any such idea and I did clearly indicate that such claims are impossible.

    I
     
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    More hyperbole. No proof. No evidence. No facts. You say one thing today and when I prove you are wrong .... tomorrow you deny what you said today. Where is your poof? Where is your evidence? Where are your facts?
     
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    What I am I denying that I said?

    Be specific and quote me.

    And once again who EVER said or wrote that Oswald fired a magic bullet which reversed directions.

    Are you now resorting to lies about what people said which can easily be checked?

    No post of mine ever said that a bullet did such things and no post of mine defended such an idea. If so feel free to cut and paste it.

    I stated nothing which requires evidence.

    I asked you about what you said that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have shot Kennedy as the Warren Commission report said.

    Explain how it was imposible
     
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    Your "Oswald did it!" conspiracy theory is so boring now. We've already proved it's stupid at least 20 times on this thread. Stop playing silly bugger. Your magic bullet is ridiculous. Even the Warren Commission had to admit they were wrong about it but you keep sticking with it. :blahblah:
     
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    It is not a conspiracy theory.

    Once again try and grasp this.

    A conspiracy by DEFINITION involves more than one person. If Oswald acted alone it cannot be and is not a CONSPIRACY theory.

    And no sir you are stating an outright lie. You have not proven it is stupid once or ten or twenty times. You have only made absurd statements that it was impossible or that you have proof ( which you cannot show ).

    You have not addressed any evidence or facts nor have you posted any evidence or facts. And there is no we only you.

    The Warren Commission never admitted they were wrong and therefore never had to admit to any such thing.'

    And once again WHO said that a bullet acted magically reversing direction and turning in mid air? I never said any such thing so who are you claiming said it?
     
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    Except oswald did not act alone, and the evidence being covered up is part of this conspiracy. I always wondered, and perhaps you know. The trip JFK's car was to take was changed, in order that he ended up on that street, with easy access for oswald. Or someone. Why was the route changed? Who changed it? I have never been able to find out this info. I think it has importance. Is this in the warren commission?
     
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    Yes he did as there is no evidence to the contrary but tons of evidence that he shot Kennedy.

    IF evidence is being covered up then you do not know that said evidence exists. You just cannot have it both ways.

    Now I am assuming that you might be referring to classified documents. Most of which have recently been released and show no new surprises. The government often does classify secrets and for good reason such as to protect sources both old and new.

    If you mean some other sort of evidence then what evidence do you refer to and how do you know it exists?

    Sorry but your claim is a total proven myth. The route was finalized days before the actual arrival of the president and the only change took place after the shooting because of course they needed to go to the hospital.

    Here is a detailed examination which includes evidence and where the myth originated.

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/route.htm

    Here is a map printed day before the assassination which clearly shows the route which was planned. That is the same route taken up until the shooting.

    The reason you have never been able to find out is that the change in the route BEFORE the shooting is simply a falsehood manufactured by conspiracy theorists.
     
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    More of the same hyperbole.Your conspiracy theory about Oswald has already been firmly debunked. It's a coward's ploy. No proof - No evidence. Your Warren Commission Magic bullet is a Dick & Jane fairy tale and if you don't admit it then you are just being dishonest. That's the bottom line. It was an inside job and everybody knows it.
     
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    I stated facts no hyperbole.

    The evidence much of which i have cited ( unlike you ) proves conclusively that Oswald shot Kennedy.

    Now what evidence do you have to the contrary?

    One more time look up hyperbole and then look up conspiracy. By definition saying that ONE man acted alone is not saying there was a conspiracy. A conspiracy is always about MORE than one person.

    You have not debunked anything and others have not debunked the evidence at all.

    Now if you wish to challenge what the Warren Commission says then i would love to hear it. So go ahead and cite a passage from the Warren Commission which is false and provide evidence.

    There is no description of a magic bullet in the Warren Commission. That is fact you cannot dispute.

    There is no evidence of an inside job and you do not speak for everyone. Everyone does NOT know it.
     
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    You and your Warren Commission Magic Bullet Oswald Conspiracy Theory have already been proven false. You've been shot down.
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    I have not been shot down or proven false.

    Neither I or the Warren Commission described a conspiracy or conspiracy theory. A conspiracy does not involve ONE person by definition it involves more than one.

    Yes the magic bullet theory has been proven false but you still cling to it and deny reality.

    You are the cult follower and believer in magic bullet theories.

    Now present some evidence.
     
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    More hyperbole and denial, I see. First you came here with your Oswald Conspiracy Theory about how Oswald was a highly trained Communist Agent who learned how to shoot bullets that can turn corners and how he worked with a team of Agents from Moscow. But now that you have been shot down - one by one - you are changing your story faster than a roadrunner over the surface of Elephant Butte Lake during a freeze. :nod: You really are funny. Where's your proof? Where's your evidence? You have none. Only your fantasy. :blahblah:
     
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    I do not know who you are referring to but you are lying.

    I never made any such claims.

    I never changed my story either.

    Oswald acted alone that is what the evidence proves. No one ever said a bullet turned corners.

    I posted evidence now show yours boy
     
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    Soupnazi's MAGIC BULLIT Conspiracy Theory:

    "Among the melee of CONSPIRACY THEORIES that have risen and fallen in the years since the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, one theory has remained the focus of intense debate: the single-bullet theory.
    THIS THEORY, SUPPORTED BY THE WARREN COMMMISSION investigating Kennedy's assassination, posits that the president was shot by the same bullet that also injured Texas Gov. John Connally, who sat in the front seat of the presidential limousine. Some critics sarcastically refer to this as the "MAGIC-BULLET THEORY".

    https://www.livescience.com/41369-single-bullet-theory-jfk-assassination.html
     
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    Wrong.

    There is nothing magical about a bullet striking more than one person. It occasionally happens.

    The part about turning and reversing and pausing etc is what would make it magical and no where did the Warren Commission report say or support any such bullshit.

    There is a big difference between SINGLE bullet and MAGIC bullet.

    The magic bullet theory is what you fell for out of pure gullibility.
     
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    Soupnazi’s Magic Bullet has been Found! Thank God for that!

    “But the bullet that was recovered ... had survived all the damage it had apparently caused virtually unscathed itself ... in fact the bullet …. was found ... on a stretcher at the hospital where the victims were treated!”

    Gosh! Gee whiz! It was just lying there on the stretcher! Dad-nabbit, a child could have picked it up and swallowed it! Oh, those Russians (I mean ‘Soviets’) are so devious! Who else could have developed a bullet that changes direction in mid-air and then just “pops out” to lie gently beside the victim so that the CIA won’t have to dig for it and waste man-hours of an investigation.

    https://www.history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm
     
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    Yes it fell out of Connally's leg. Since he was lying on a stretcher that is where it would land.

    Nothing magical about that and you are still stating outright lies about it changing directions. Nor was it unscathed or undamaged or pristine it was damaged in manner perfectly consistent with hitting two men.

    Also the Russians had nothing to do with it so why do you keep throwing them into the story?

    You could at least be honest since you are trying to argue.
     
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    :roll: Ignorance of the facts or outright lie?
    Whichever is chosen the fact remains that the bullet that just happened to end up on a stretcher and just happened to be noticed by hospital workers doesn't happen to bear any resemblance to an actual round that had entered and exited the bodies of two men and smashed through bone and tissue.
    And as usual the FBI cannot establish any clear chain of custody so who knows where the bullet came from or how it got there? https://www.history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm

    Like with almost all of the evidence in the JFK case we are dependent on an agency that manufactured, hid or magically produced
    "evidence" out of thin air. And it's director seemed to know all about who shot the president practically before it happened.
     

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