Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.

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  1. Nemesis

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    Exactly. These trumpers seemingly make **** up and act like they’re experts on evidence and the impeachment process.

    uh, no. *LOL*
     
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    Geepers! Maybe it should just be ignored because it's just made up BS.
     
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    Panic mode?

    So far, every Republican including Trump has denied knowing Parnes, and every time he has released a photo, with FBI consent, proving them wrong.

    It ain't the Dems in panic mode. It's every Republican who ever took a photo with this guy, which seems to be just about all of them.
     
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    Yes, that is correct, the Dem's are indeed in panic mode. Lev Parnas will end up being another dud. Trump isn't going anywhere. He will remain the President of the United States. Watch and see.
     
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    So a guy wrote notes and he comes out the day after Democrats hand over the reigns to Republicans. Amazing how this evidence just pops up. At any event explain how you can avoid taking a picture with someone? It’s basically impossible. Someone claiming that they “know you” because they gathered a library of photos with everyone, means nothing. It’s hilarious. But think about it. That’s the extent of what Leftists think relationships are. Gathering at fund raisers means they’re all your friends. /derp
     
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    So is Bonespurs' 'legal defense" .

    But you believe those fairytales. How about Parnas, Bonespurs, Bolton and Mulvaney all testify so that we can see who the liar is?
     
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    Why would you pretend all he has are handwritten notes? Are you hoping to convince people who don’t follow this story? Or are you among them and just spouting off without the facts?
     
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    He's getting impeached because of it!!!! The Senate doesn't do criminal investigation. There was an investigation into the Clinton foundation. And Behghazi was never a criminal investigation it was Congress overseeing the Departments of State, Defense and the CIA. What charges are you talking about?
     
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    Yes scandal, pay for play. You like that selling influence?
     
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    He’s got notes and his opinion. He doesn't have proof of illegal activity. Again Democrats think an opinion matters. It does NOT. Proof proof proof.
     
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    And he’s got messages showing they were threading Ukraine to announce a biden investigation
     
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    Congress overseeing the state dept? Remember when that was allowed? Now they can’t get docs or testimony.
     
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    To damage him or find out what happened in 2016? What did Trump gain from this investigation and how did it damage Biden? Is Trump running against Biden? What were the terms of this bribe?

    Remember. Opinion isn’t proof. We have Obama on camera agreeing to be a spy for Russia. That’s how I interpreted the conversation and my opinion is all that matters right? Don’t need proof. He’s a spy because I think so. Crazy right?
     
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    The State Department not the President.
     
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    We don't know the origin of those notes and messages and the Ukraine corruption STILL needs to be fully investigated.
     
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    Do you even understand how corporate boards work?

    Companies appoint influential individuals that can raise their profile. Very few corporate board members actually have experience in the particulars of the companies whose boards they sit on.

    Jeb Bush is a perfect example:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jeb...-become-a-problem-in-the-2016-campaign-2015-5

    From the article:

    One company that paid Bush $15,000 a month as a board member and consultant, InnoVida Holdings, collapsed in fraud and bankruptcy, with the company's CEO, Claudio Osorio, now serving 12½ years in prison. Bush joined InnoVida despite warning signs that Osorio's prior company dissolved amid bankruptcy and allegations of fraud.
     
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    We’ve got everyone involved saying what this was, trump asking for a favor. No legitimate explanations have come out. It’s pretty clear. But yes, someone who doesn’t want it to be true can create an imaginary scenario where it’s not. So long as you ignore everything we actually know.
     
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    So Pompeo will testify and turn over docs?
    OMB isn’t the president. Will Mick testify? Bolton? Nobody is asking trump to.
     
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    Where Ukraine says they’ll investigate the Bidens if trump will fire the ambassador?
     
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    No in this case the senate conducts a trail based on the indictment of the congress. And in a trail continuing investigation with new evidence and witnesses being called in both prosecuting and defending is part of due process.

    Yes there were a couple of investigations into Clinton with ZERO result. And benghazi, after the first investigation sure as hell was about trying to crucify Hillary.
     
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    It's not an indictment it was in impeachment and the Senate judges whether to remove or based on the impeachement. They sit there quietly not saying a word and the House presents the evidence presented for the impeachment. The Senate does not conduct an investigation. You are not a very good student of American government. And what do you mean "results" of the Bengahzi investigation? It was not a criminal investigation what "results" were you looking for?
     
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    Where?
     
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    Indeed, there is a WhatsApp message from Lutsenko where he informs Parnas, who is under federal indictment for campaign finance violations, that he has copies of payments Burisma made to an investment firm co-founded by Hunter Biden. Lutsenko says, "“It’s just that if you don’t make a decision about Madam—you are bringing into question all my allegations. Including about B."
     
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    Why should they testify. The House had undeniable proof of Trump's guilt. Lets get on with the show. Time for the Senate to look at the evidence the House presented and used to impeach the President of the United States and decide his fate. After all, the House assured America that they presented a lock solid case for removal.
     
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    It’s pretty obvious why trumpeters don’t want more evidence, they know what it’ll show. Sad some put partisanship over our constitution.
     
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