Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.

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  1. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    LOL - at least you admit Obama spied on Trump.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    If by Obama you mean the fbi and by trump you mean Carter Page, then yes.
     
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    Boilermaker55 Well-Known Member

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    You must be getting some terrible advise or you are pulling this out of one of your orifices...if you don't like it....to bad.

     
  4. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    So now you are saying Obama directed his Administration and the FBI to spy on carter Page? Most likely.

    When did Obama direct his team to start spying on Michael Flynn?
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Are you kidding Cubed? Where is your evidence they knew back then what they've discovered a year ago?
     
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  6. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    When they figured out he was a criminal probably.
    When did trump tell his DOJ to lie to the judge about Flynn being entrapped and claim the 302s weren’t altered?
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Fake news. He wasn't a criminal. What crime did Carter Page commit? What crime did Michael Flynn commit?

    Why did they alter his 302, then?
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I’m more interested in why trump directed his DOJ to lie about Flynn. Any guesses?
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Obama and his Administration spied on Flynn and the rest of the Trump campaign and then the Trump Administration.

    Durham has a criminal investigation to look into a lot of this.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    And the trump admin is lying about entrapping Flynn and altering his 302s. Thanks trump!
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Again, you just made that up.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I posted the ****ing quote and link lol
    You’re too much.
     
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    Guilani is obviously a part of this investigation so his part of these phone logs is fair game but I've not seen enough proof that Solomon (a journalist) is apart of anything other than he wrote a story. If two parties discuss something don't you have to get both parties consent before you release their part in the discussion?
     
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    So his subsequent identification after the fact was just innocent not people trying to smear John Solomon and or the message that he report it???
     
  15. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Let’s start with your claim that simply being investigated means their logs are “fair game”. Based on what? Either none are or all are. Unproven allegations of a crime doesn’t change anything legally.
     
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    Why not? Because politics is essentially a game, republicans and democrats are opponents. If your playing a game of basketball your opponent probably wants you to dribble the ball off your foot but you don't right?

    Democrats want these witnesses because it will help them win the game so why would their opponents give them things to help them beat you? If witnesses do materialize realistically their will be some that democrats really don't want to hear from either Imo
     
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    If there is reason to believe one has committed a crime then their records can be gotten. Third parties have right to privacy obviously.

    So since Solomon wasn't given that right what crime is he( again a journalist) being investigated for?
     
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    Even suspects have a right to privacy....if there is one for phone records obtained via subpoena.
     
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    The first 3 years might have something to do with Obama being POTUS and Biden being VP and in charge of Ukraine ops.

    I guess it's kinda like how the Obama admin's "russian collusion" investigation and the impeachment line up chronologically with reelection issues.
     
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    Lol...You sound like you almost believe that.
     
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    Well, Hunters Wikipedia Page was updated in May of 2014 to add the announcement by Burisma that they had expanded their board to include Hunter.

    Interestingly enough, the investigation by the Serious Fraud Office of the UK into money laundering against Zlochevsky and all the accounts were frozen.

    Constant investigations into Zlochevsky and Burisma would continue from there into 2016-17, until mostly dismissed by 2019 due to various issues.

    So if they didn't think something fishy was going on with Hunter and Burisma until 2019, then they were metaphorically covering their eyes and ears yelling 'lalalalalalala'.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the 3.5 years that Trump was in power?
     
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    What was discovered a year ago?
     
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    I'm sure that the NEXT investigation will make all your dreams come true.
     
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    Metadata (what got released) is not disclosing the contents of their conversation.
     
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