Russia cancels US student-exchange program

even if one road were ruined, that wouldn't mean the entire country is.

you in the West are fooling yourselves by distorting facts, half-thruths, falsehoods, and stereotyping; are you taught this from very childhood?.. why being so blinkered?

 

I participated in such a program myself. That's a pity that such an opportunity is over. But it would be strange for the countries which are about to start the war to have such projects active. Washington needs to give up its pratice of establishing chaso near russian borders and learn some respect in order to be of any cultural value for russian future. Once it is done and the people responsible for the current massacre all of the world are made responsible there will be no problem to restore these projects.

 

Ukraine is going to get more than 300 Russian spots in this program. The program is fully sponsored by the US government including transportation and all living expenses in the US.

Lol at Putler, has he done anything right this year?

 

US Government is also known to finance subversive operations disguised as cultural exchange and aid programs. Due to worsening relations with Russia, Russian government can be expected to take retaliatory actions. Student exchange is much less important then all those sanctions.

 

paranoid nonsense.

 

This Russian student seeking political asylum in the US after the completion of the FLEX is the real cause of the suspension of the student exchange programme between Russia and the US. Perhaps some Russian students are reluctant to go home after spending few years in America due mainly to economic reasons, which is very concerning for Moscow. The US may need to deport this Russian student in order to assure Moscow that all Russian exchange students will be forced to return to their mother country no matter what.

 

Dang now US students won't be able to attend their top notch universities and live under an authoritarian cult of personality, however, will we cope?

 

Yes like blue jeans, rock'n'roll and pure awesomeness that authoritarian regimes based on cults of personality have no response to other than total control of the press and forced indoctrination of the masses.

 

I am not some Russian Basher...I have many Russian friends some who still live in Russia as well as some who now live in the U.S. and London.

All of Russia is falling apart.

Hardly any money is put into Russian Infrastructure.

This is why the development and exploration and exploitation of Siberian Oil and Gas Reserves will not be accomplished in any swift enough time or cheap enough way to be worth exploiting.

It should have started 11 years ago....with the joint Russian/American Program.

But Putin squashed the deal.

Even with the help of China....Siberian Oil and Gas will have too high a price on it per barrel as the cost must take into account the cost of getting to it...drilling for it...and either piping or shipping it.

By the time Russia brings such Gas and Oil to market....the United States and Canada will be not only energy self sufficient but as well Canada will be the #1 Exporter in the World of cheap Sand Tar Oil and the U.S. will become the #1 Exporter in the World of Shale Oil and remain the #1 Exporter of Coal.

Plus as I have stated....by 2025 to 2030....U.S. Low Temp. Fusion Reactors which have already had several sucessful tests....will start becoming available to replace old Fission Reactors and replace Oil, Gas and Coal Burning Plants.

Plus Fusion Reactors have ZERO Radioactive Waste.

AboveAlpha...Russia is too far behind the curve.

 

Nice post.

This has always been an embarrassment and problem for both Soviet and now Russian officials.

In the 1970's and less so in the 1980's as the Soviets started holding family members basically hostage if a Soviet Athlete or Dancer or Musician decided to defect.

Putin is the product of the KGB....and Putin and his former KGB Cronies run Russia like a Syndicate or Mafia.

The ONLY thing Putin cares about is Putin and keeping a hold of Power.

AboveAlpha

 

I can't believe that anyone on this forum, after seeing so much proof of the lies and deception of Washington can still believe the propaganda that is being spitted out by Obama, Kerry and the corporate media. I believe there's a political agenda behind what they're saying...and that some are on a payroll.

As for being taught from childhood, no the American people are not taught from childhood to lie and distort things, otherwise they wouldn't be so gullible. They have no idea what our government is doing, and because it goes so much against the American character, (or at least the character in my day and age), our Washington politicians are being forced to resort to propaganda and lies in order to achieve their nefarious agenda.

 

I don't think anyone would argue the U.S. Government and it's Agencies have plans within plans as this is a FACT.

But there are VERY FEW people in the world that would think Putin is Mr. Sunshine and that the current Russian Government is not a DICTATORSHIP.

Here is a clue....when a leader...ie...Putin....seizes control of the MEDIA....seizes control of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS.....throws CEO's into Prison and takes over their Companies and then changes LAWS so such a leader can remain in power indefinitely without term limits....IT IS A DICTATORSHIP!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Read this by Craig Roberts, who was the chief economist under Reagan and who helped give the US and world thirty years of prosperity:


Washington Is Destroying The World

"...The aggressive and mindless stance that Washington’s warmongers have taken toward Russia and China have shattered the accomplishment of Reagan and Gorbachev.

Reagan and Gorbachev ended the cold war and removed the threat of nuclear armageddon. Now the neocons, the US budget-dependent (taxpayer dependent) US military/security complex, and the US politicians dependent on campaign funds from the military/security complex have resurrected the nuclear threat.

The corrupt and duplicitous Clinton regime broke the agreement that the George H.W. Bush administration gave Moscow in 1990. In exchange for Moscow permitting a reunified Germany to be a NATO member, Washington agreed that there would be no expansion of NATO to the east. Gorbachev, US Secretary of State James Baker, US ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock, and declassified documents all testify to the fact that Moscow was assured that there would be no expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe.

In 1999 President Bill Clinton made a liar of the administration of President George H.W. Bush. The corrupt Clinton brought Poland, Hungary, and the newly formed Czech Republic into NATO.

President George W. Bush also made a liar out of his father, George H.W. Bush, and his father’s trusted Secretary of State, James Baker. “Dubya,” as the fool and drunkard is known, brought Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and Romania into NATO in 2004. The corrupt and hopeless Obama regime added Albania and Croatia in 2009.

In other words, over the past 21 years three two-term US presidents have taught Moscow that the word of the US government is worthless...."

Read on--

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/06/washington-destroying-world-paul-craig-roberts/

 

well, the good thing about this decision is that American students will no longer be victims of virtual child-abuse, by sending them to Authoritarian Russia, having them live in a truly bigoted society, that worships dictators like Stalin and lies about its own history.

for the good of the American children, maybe this is a good thing after all.

 

Can you tell the difference between an unbiased observation of past events...or in this case of Paul Craig Roberts....a man who is no longer in the LOOP and is resorting to SENSATIONALISM to make money?

AboveAlpha

 

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Wrong, much of the media and news sources in Russia are foreign owned, and he is now demanding that their ownership be limited the way it is in the U.S., Great Britain and most other countries.

Wrong again, he throws CEO's in jail for tax evasion which the U.S. does as well...as you know.

Wrong again! He has been voted in and if it's within the law, he will be voted in again. I can't understand something, why do you keep emphasizing things which you must know are not true?

 

If you cannot see the obvious inherent dangers that one time Russian Democracy faces under Putin then I don't know what to tell you.

Perhaps I can ASK you this.

If a President of the U.S. were to attempt to do in the United States what Putin has done in Russia...just how many days do you think such a President would remain President?

I would give him 2 days.

AboveAlpha

 

I see a Craig Roberts as a man of integrity who is as appalled as I am at the deceit and hypocrisy in Washington DC. He sees the warmongers dragging the world into a nuclear armegeddon with their stupidity and narcissism, and has the courage to reveal the truth knowing full well the calumny and lies that will be thrown on him by the media sociopaths and Washington.

I was never so ashamed of my country and what it has become, as I was when Obama rose at the U.N. and spit out one lie after the other. So why did he do it? Is it because he thinks everyone is an idiot and can be easily fooled, or to show as the leader of the 'exceptional' nation, he is above mundane things such as honesty and truthfulness.

I AM THE LAW

 

LOL!!! Funny!

Considering I have spent a good amout of my life helping to contain Soviet Expansionism and then helping to solidify Russian Democracy....I find your confused stance amusing.

AboveAlpha

 

yes you are. Putin being your target because he made Russia a well-off country, unlike Gorbatchov or Yeltsyn whom you overlook because it was them that made the country fall apart.

is that a mantra with you?

oh yeah, but if so, how the country still carries on?

 

a gay student, to be prcise - http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-united-states-flex-program-gay-student-/26626078.html

huh, you somehow have managed to slip 'economic reasons' in there, as if the students are guaranteed to do better in the US than back home; also, one student now implies 'some Russian students' in your exaggeration; nice spin.

i meant to say that some of them are taught to beguile themselves and willfully wear blinkers, like the example above shows.

 

I met a few people, who spent time in Russia. They have plenty of good memories and they love Russian people and Russia. Unfortunately, I had no opportunity to discuss experiences with Russian students, who learned in our country. However, I met and talked with a female student from Moscow in airport and during the flight. She was in England. She told me that she was surprised, when her new hosts in England started with teaching them how to use toilet and shower...

 

Well, I studied in England in Brighton, to be precise. I can say that people in the west have extremely screwed up views on what Russia is, that I can say for sure. I heard many things from "Russia is a snowy country and it's cold and snowy everywhere the whole year", to things that Russians are agressive and fight, when English people talk, Russian people fight.

As for the gay hate. Guys nobody hates gays just because they are gays. If you know Brighton you know that there are a lot of gay people their, that's there choice to live like that. I don't care if the person is gay, I care what kind of person is he. If he is a decent person and he does not go into a grubby touchy mode, I don't care what his sexual prefferences are. What people don't like and I can say even hate, when the minorities starts dictating their conditions to the majority. Many people see things like that - "You want to sleep with men, go and sleep with men. Just don't go out on a street and shout it like an idiot.' I can agree with that. I don't go on heterosexual parades and scream how cool is to have sexual intercourse with women. What happens in my bed stays in my bed. If we want equality then let's be equal, heterosexuals don't do that, to be equal gays also don't do that. I don't see any problem.

As for the statistics, there are idiots everywhere, however, there are way to many more assaults on gay people in US then in Russia. It's just in US nobody talks about them as well they don't talk about Arabic countries.

I think that overvictimization of gays, women and black people because like a trump card for any discussion against different countries. For some reason some people think that they can go to another country and impose their own rules to that country.

 

I agree with you about gays. Here, in USA, by the way, gays are not only men, some women, too. I do not really care, but I despise them for being "proud" with their life style and even aggressive attitude towards straight people.

I met many Americans, who saw less of America then I did. Some live and work entire life in the same area, where they were born, and never traveled. Actually, many people are poorly educated, but they are good and kind people. I met one woman (in her 30th), who spent a few years in Nizhny Novgorod, where she took some classes. She has very sweet memories about the city, Russian people and she speaks decent Russian. We talked in Russian well. I also met another, much younger woman in Oklahoma. She found Russian language exceptionally beautiful, not sure, if she was in Russia, though. At the same time, there are pockets of Russian emigrants in New York, who live in area of a few blocks entire life, speak Russian and very poor English! America is full of strange surprises.

 

A sixteen year old student did not return to Russian as per the agreement, and his mother wants him back. This is quite serious. He is underage so it is kidnapping.