Russia Continues Interfering in Election to Try to Help Trump

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  1. ChiCowboy

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    Supporting Putin over Americans is traitorous. I put it somewhere around Jane Fonda in heinousness. Maybe a little more.
     
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    I get it. Never question the government. They have you trained well.
     
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    ~ Many countries attempt to hack the USA - China and Russia are only two of them. There is no way they can alter the outcome of an election. We should still go back to paper ballots just as a safeguard. No electronic voting.
     
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    Apparently they swung the election in Trump's favor by placing a few Facebook ads.
     
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    Russia owns the minds of the alt (trump) right. In fact, they pretty much created it through their years of online disinformation. That's why the alt-right is pro-Russia and anti-NATO. They think as they have been programmed by the Russians to think.
     
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    ~ Yet it is the left constantly talking about Russia. Go figure ... :confuse:´
     
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    Maybe a lot more
     
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    Only ONE of those countries hacked into our election system

    Russia

    Only ONE of those countries stole e-mails and used wikileaks to weaponize them in favor of one candidate

    Russia
     
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    ~ Then Obama should have done something to stop it. I believe he did tell Putin " Cut it out. " Remember the hack gathered information on both democrats and republicans . To say it was done to favor one candidate is opinion and hype. We really don't know.
    China has much better hack capabilities. Maybe they did it and left Russian calling cards everywhere. As Jim Comey said it was "very sloppy like amateurs" with clues everywhere.
    Many of us Americans do not trust James R. Clapper - a proven liar. It was he who pointed the finger. His intelligence agency never inspected the DNC servers that were supposedly hacked. With all the corruption unveiled in the DOJ who knows what is going on ...

    https://www.marshalltribune.com/story/2398675.html
     
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    Who would "us" be?

    The QAnon loons that supplied most of that diatribe?
     
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    Most definitely Mueller knows more. As does everybody else, it would appear. Except, of course, those who don't care that Trump cheats in the elections. They like to act as if they don't know.

    Hopefully enough Americans exceed this low bar for moral principles and patriotism set by Trump, so that it doesn't become the new normal. But I'm afraid it will stay there for a while on the right. And the Republican Party will not be a serious alternative to honest Americans who decide their vote based on moral principles until they shed this period in history. For Republicans, this will be like the anti-civil rights period of the Democratic Party: a part of their history that generations to come will look back in disgust.
     
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    ~ "Us" would be most everybody - but not "we". ✔
     
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    You folks live in some alternate dimension.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Trump, Russia and an Intelligence Document: Key Moments
    Officials told The New York Times Magazine that the draft of a classified document reporting that Russia favored President Trump in the 2020 election was changed to soften its assessment.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/us/politics/trump-russia.html

    "A little more than a year ago, American intelligence agencies drafted a classified document reporting that the Russian government favored President Trump in the 2020 presidential election, a finding that fit with their consensus that the Kremlin tried to help him in 2016.

    The director of national intelligence was asked to modify the assessment — he did not — and not long afterward, Mr. Trump declared the director was out.


    Soon after the new acting director arrived, an intelligence official changed the document, softening the claim that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia wanted Mr. Trump to win, according to an article published on Saturday by The New York Times Magazine. The investigation includes details not previously reported about the fears of officials in U.S. intelligence agencies under the Trump administration, who described struggling to brief the president without provoking his anger or losing their jobs."
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    Those of you who can access the NYT can read the in depth investigation here.

    Unwanted Truths: Inside Trump’s Battles With U.S. Intelligence Agencies
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/magazine/us-russia-intelligence.html
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    For those who can't access the article you can hear an interview with the author here.

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...mp-s-wrath-delivering-hard-truths-89878597943
     
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    Well, it looks like the democrats have the smoking gun they have been looking for and yet they are doing nothing I wonder why.
     
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    Being an MSN article, credibility is of course negative from the get-go.

    But ask yourself- if you were a foreign leader wishing ill-will to America or seeking superiority over it, would you want Trump or Biden in charge?

    That's kind of like asking if you would rather be in a boxing match against Mike Tyson, or Mr. Bean, the diminutive British comedian.

    It's such a foolish and preposterous assumption in the first place that is is indeed far more comparable to British comedy than real world common sense. Monty Python stuff. Same guys who wrote for him are now democratic strategists.
     
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    Pure nonsense.

    Trump is OWNED by Putin
     

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