Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Durandal

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    NATO: How Finland will fight in a war with Russia after Ukraine invasion


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    It's KIEV. Next you'll be telling us that Kievan Rus and the Rurik Dynasty were ukies. :roflol:

    If you ever walked through the touristy part of Kiev and thought it was nice, every building you walked past was pre-revolution, also known as built by Russians/Russia because it was Russia. This concludes today's history lesson.
     
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    Kievan Rus, not Russian Kiev. You can't deny that Kyiv existed first. It is absurd to suggest that modern Ukraine somehow belongs to modern Russia when neither entity existed even as recently as the 20th century. It's not Ukraine's fault that the Communist Soviet Union had its capital in Moscow and treated the Ukrainians like ****. Modern Russia is a continuation of the USSR, complete with a cabal of old Soviet KGB officers at the helm, and you keep jerking off over it. A Texan who is enamored with a bunch of Commie bastards seeking to restore the USSR. Imagine that.

    P.S. Your YouTube source is a raving kook, as usual:

    Ukraine and Russia
    2014 Russian annexation of Crimea
    In 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea and was engaged in a conflict with Ukraine over its eastern parts, Macgregor appeared on Russian state-owned network RT where he called for the annexation of the Donbas and said residents of the region "are in fact Russians, not Ukrainians, and at the same time, you have Ukrainians in the west and in the north, who are not Russians."[19][34]

    2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
    After Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Macgregor appeared on three Fox News programs to speak in support of Russia's actions. Russian state television broadcast excerpts of Macgregor's appearances, which included a characterization of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy as a "puppet," that Russian forces had been "too gentle" in the early days of the invasion and that Russian president Vladimir Putin was being "demonized" by the United States and NATO. Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted. After one of his appearances, Macgregor's comments were characterized by veteran Fox News Pentagon correspondent Jennifer Griffin as "appeasement" and that he was being an "apologist" for Putin. After Griffin's remarks, Tucker Carlson — who hosted Macgregor on two successive nights — remarked, "Unlike many of the so-called reporters you see on television, he is not acting secretly as a flack for Lloyd Austin at the Pentagon. No, Doug Macgregor is an honest man." Trey Gowdy, another Fox News host who interviewed Macgregor, said his viewpoint was "stunning and disappointing."[35][36][37][38] U.S. representative Liz Cheney said of Macgregor "This is the Putin wing of the GOP."[39]

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    Vikings, mostly Swedish
     
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    If Putin is out to take over Ukraine, He should go for it all and that ought to make sense.
    Putin's plan was to take Ukraine and merge with Russia and bring back the Soviet Union. I doubt if that will happen now or it could be still a plan to do so.
     
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    That settles it, then. Russia should be governed by Sweden.
     
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    One thing is 100% certain....he does not want to bring back the Soviet Union. Putin outright hates what Lenin did and all these problems in Ukraine, Ossetia, Transnistra are because of the Soviet Union/Lenin.

    The EU is more or less a modern Soviet Union. They have the open borders....and top down unelected bureaucrat rule.....now just a little more socialism and they'll be there.
     
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    Sometimes I think Putin is hard to understand.
     
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    No. It's KYIV. "Kyiv" is the Ukrainian pronunciation of the Ukrainian word for a Ukrainian city, a city that existed before Russia. "Kiev" is the Russian pronunciation of that same Ukrainian city.
     
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    Boom 2:

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    This will be the first Oblast to fall and never return to Russia:

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    Technological/medical advancements.
     
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    And lets not forget the need for imported spare parts for all the cars currently on the road. Every month the war continues that little problem is going to get worse and worse. I hope Russians like horses.
     
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    Plus it reflects the Ukrainian spelling of the city's name (Київ), while Kiev reflects the Russian spelling (Киев).
     
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    And Buggies!
     
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    Maybe the Cubans can give them some pointers :D
     
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    Naturally, with Ukrainian being the more advanced language of the two, etymologocally speaking.

    This video lays out the differences pretty well:

     
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    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 29
    Jun 29, 2022 - Press ISW
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    Karolina Hird, Frederick W. Kagan, George Barros, and Grace Mappes

    June 29, 6 pm ET

    Click here to see ISW's interactive map of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This map is updated daily alongside the static maps present in this report.

    The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on June 28 that the Kremlin is setting conditions to annex areas of Kherson and Zaporizhia into the Russian Federation under the template of the pre-1917 “Tavriia Gubernia.”[1] The Tavriia (or Tauride) Gubernia was a historical province of the Russian Empire.[2] Under the Tavriia Gubernia scenario, the left bank of Kherson Oblast and part of Zaporizhia Oblast would be directly annexed to the Russian Federation, likely as a single unit.[3] The Ukrainian Resistance Center stated that Russian authorities are preparing for a pseudo-referendum to set conditions for the annexation of the Tavriia Gubernia (as opposed to proxy “people‘s republics“). The Russians are also requiring Ukrainian citizens in southern Ukraine to open bank accounts with Russian state-owned Promsvyazbank.[4] Head of Ukraine’s Kherson Oblast Administration Hennadiy Lahuta reported that Russian forces have locked down civilian traffic in northern Kherson Oblast and are not allowing anyone to enter or exit occupied territory, which may be an additional attempt to control the civilian population in preparation for annexation measures.[5]

    Ukrainian sources warned on June 29 that Russian forces may be planning a false flag provocation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) to accuse Ukrainian authorities of mishandling nuclear facilities.[6] Ukrainian nuclear operating enterprise Energoatom stated that Russian occupation authorities are planning to throw unsafe objects into the cooling system at the NPP in order to compromise the plant’s cooling mechanisms.[7] Mayor of Enerhodar Dmytro Orlov added that Russian troops have been kidnapping and torturing employees of the NPP to coerce confessions that employees dropped weapons into the cooling systems to sabotage the plant and blame Ukrainian authorities for paying inadequate attention to the management of the NPP.[8] Russian troops have previously demonstrated irresponsible and dangerous behavior in and around nuclear power plants, firing on nuclear facilities at the Zaporizhzhia NPP in early March and digging into radioactive soil in the Chornobyl Exclusion Zone.[9]

    Key Takeaways

    • Ukrainian sources reported that Russian authorities may be preparing to annex areas of southern Ukraine as the “Tavriia Gubernia” and that Russian authorities are setting conditions for annexation through preparing referenda in occupied areas.
    • Russian forces may be planning a false flag provocation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations in and around Lysychansk.
    • Russian forces made marginal gains east of Bakhmut along the E40 highway and may seek to prepare for a direct offensive on Bakhmut.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations to advance on Slovyansk from the northwest near the Kharkiv-Donetsk Oblast border.
    • Russian forces are continuing to engage in offensive operations north of Kharkiv City, indicating that the Kremlin has territorial ambitions beyond the Donbas that will continue to attrit manpower and equipment, potentially at the cost of offensive power on more critical axes of advance.
    • Russian forces continued to reinforce their defensive presence along the Southern Axis.
    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-29
     
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    Which would explain this:

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    Between this and trying to use some old Russian imperial borders as an excuse to annex Ukrainian territory directly into Russia (foregoing the laughable "people's republic" intermediate step), it's clear what Bloodymir's ambitions are and how dishonestly and callously he is prepared to go about achieving them.
     
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