Russia denies deployment of troops in Egypt

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  1. MrFirst

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    As usually, Russia denies any military activity.
     
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    What a coincidence, that it 'happens' exactly when USA did exactly the same in Syria.

    It is as if somebody tries to pull attention from unwelcome illegal military presence in other country.
     
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    If to reflect, then the information of British "anonymous sources", indeed, looks implausible. Yes, Russia maintains contacts with the controlling eastern part of Libya, Khalif Khaftar, and is also everybody knows of the highly friendly relations with the Egyptian leadership. However it is completely incomprehensible what to do to the Russian special forces for 100 kilometers from the Libyan border, and even with drones.
    If it was necessary to train the Libyans to use Russian UAVs, then the Egyptians, at the very least, the Russian military disguised as Egyptians, coped with it perfectly. If the purpose of the secret mission of Russian special forces was reconnaissance, why they were quartered so far from the border?
    This news does not stand up to criticism. Most likely, this is another throw-in, whose goal is to support anti-Russian hysteria in the Western information space. There is no doubt that the source of this news was "inspired" by the recent successful actions of the Forces of special operations of Russia under Palmira.
    A brilliant operation for the liberation of Palmyra, developed by the Russian General Staff, does not let the Western military and journalists to sleep peacefully. The storming of the city was so overwhelming that they now everywhere see Russian special forces.

    In February, British Defense Secretary Michael Fellon clearly formulated the West's "hybrid fears" towards Libya. "We do not want the bear to poke its paws there," Fellon said.
    Russian Defense Minister Shoigu then answered Fellon: "We do not think that in their" zoo "a beast grew up, which can point to a bear.....There is an old saying: all lions are cats, but not all cats are lions."
     
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    American forces are fighting terrorists in Syria.

    We don't need anybody's "permission" to destroy those who threaten our citizens or the Homeland.
     
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    look like you guys have fixed all domestic problems and new its Egypt turn , right?
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    this looks like my grandparents house when they first immigrated, in pictures that is , many MANY years ago, nothing changes much in Muscovy?
     
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    In other words, do you mean that the US is a bunch of insane orcs? Those who ignore international law? So say - the evil empire?
     
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    This is not Egypt. This is Lithuania.
     
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    No... I mean that the US has a right to defend itself from terrorist groups, just like Russia does.
     
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    There is a difference. Russia in Syria at the invitation of the legally elected government of Syria. The USA in Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan... and other regions is an aggressor. Without the permission of the legitimately elected government of the country and without a UN mandate. So, for example, Hitler acted.
     
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    Actually, you do.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Charter#Article_2

    Want to go in Syria? - Well, your government have to do what ours did - make a legal agreement with president Assad and his office. I heard that USA really bothers with legal procedures in such cases, and absolutely disapporves any sort of illegal military presence or annexation-like acts.
     
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    Something like the Soviets practised during their invasion of astan back in 80? And speaking of annexation there was one done in Crimea recently in 2014 with 117% voter turnout, sounds familiar?
     
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    More like somewhere in Dagestan or Ingushetia.
     
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    We are not in 80th, and not in 2014, we are in 2017 and we have uninvited US military in Syria.

    Or principles of democracy, liberty and ideals of United Nations only work when we speak of Russian Federation? Every country must follow them, with no exceptions.
     
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    So then what is Russia going to do about USA presence in Syria? Kick them out, fire missiles, or? Russia's not exactly good at following rules you know.
     
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    1: Russia doesn't have much moral authority to lecture the US on international law

    2: Our troops are doing nothing to threaten "the territorial integrity or political independence" of Syria. We are fighting the terrorists, which are also threatening the Assad regime.

    3: Say we did ask for Assads permission to conduct anti-terrorist operations within his borders, do you think there is even the slightest chance he would give permission? And if he did not, what is America supposed to do? Sit back and watch?
     
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    What does Russia want in Libya?

    Oh, gasp, they're thinking about the oil! I can see it all now! They don't want the region to stabilize and pump even more oil into the world economy, undercutting the Russian oil business.
     
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    you are totally right, i am sure much like in Syria , they give a free pass to Muscovite Muslim terrorists and separatists , need a link?
     
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    Law - is a law.

    Regardless of who reminds you about it.

    Is that chrystal clear?
     
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    Exactly, sit back and watch. Either that - or bring case to international court of justice, and see if they find any legal basis for your military presence on territory of other country.
     
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    So what you're saying the story is fake to deflect attention from the US forces in Syria?

    the only problem I have with ^^ is the information is rather specific,

     
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    Unacceptable. No country should have to wait for permission while it's citizens are being threatened.

    What nonsense. "Any legal basis"?

    If a child was being beaten and raped in someone's house, do the police need to seek permission from a judge before they break the door down?

    Well, innocent women, children, and men are being beaten, raped, and far worse by ISIS within the borders of Syria. Not only that, they are threatening to break into our homes, and your homes, and everyone else's. We don't have time to watch.
     
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    Russian agitprop. Hell, Yogoslavia doesn't even exist as such today. :lol: This new Putin lie that the US is in a bunch of countries uninvited and killing millions of people is just that, and it's stupid. We and other NATO forces have done more for the Afghan people than the Soviets ever did when they invaded, and we've seriously reduced an organized global terrorist threat in the process. Iraq, like Syria, is now an IS hotbed and everyone who stands to be affected by those bastards ought to be in there clearing them out.
     
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    Why doesn't Russia return Ukraine's territory and then take that to the international court of justice?
     
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    In that case I would like to know opinion of Lybian presidental council on that matter. 22 sounds more like some special operation, but I'd like facts instead of assumptions.

    As for details - details may be made up. I would like to continue observing that incident, until it gets more clear.

    Again, even presence does not necesserily signifies that this task force is not legally present in country. Unless Lybian government confirms it's presence and that this presence is unwelcome.
     
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