Russia: More US Diplomats Have To Leave Moscow Next Year.

Provide the stats for these 125K Ukrainian troops near the DPR DMZ?

Any verifiable satcom images from the Pentagon....or even "irrefutable" links from RT,Sputnik, or whatever $hithouse wall you see this on?)

Vladolf Putinka is looking for an "out" it seems , without looking weak or stupid or both. DPR "Neverussia" is an epic fail.

 

That's because the vast majority of Americans are ignorant about Russia, its politics and its people. Americans believe whatever garbage the MSM spews and can't be bothered with getting off their lazy asses to go see for themselves.

You want to talk voting oversight after the shitshow we had last November?

 

It seems to me that you're talking about our own government, because it's not Putin that invaded and bombed Belgrade illegally under false premises. Nor is it Russia that invaded Iraq illegally, bombed and invaded Libya, and entered Syria under the pretense of fighting ISIS - while indirectly supporting them to overthrow the legally elected President Assad.

We have now stolen Syria's oil, killed their sheep, burned their wheat and have sanctioned medicine to make the people suffer for preferring Assad's all inclusive society rather than allowing us to break Syria up into ethnic and religious enclaves to weaken and Balkanize it by having them at one another's throats.

Personally, I agree with Vladimir Putin's philosophical belief that one shouldn't impose their own standards on others since there are innate differences between cultures. Maybe it's because I'm Orthodox and we don't believe in proselytizing and imposing anything on others - and that nations like individuals, have to develop at their own rate and within their own cultural comprehension. As Vladimir Putin once said, the Soviet Union failed, and so will we.

Anyway, since there seems to be more similarity to Hitler in what we're doing than with Russia, are you sure you're not projecting?

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Projection, projection, it's what we do.
and some of course will think it's true,
not knowing we're seeing ourselves in you.

Yet in the past it's been the case
of those who've fallen far from Grace,
of starting wars like the one we'll face.

But it doesn't always have to be so
and end in tears and cries and woe.
It could end right now - like this verse.

- Jeannette​

 

Putin was never in politics; he was a bureaucrat. Under the American stooge Yeltsin the Russian people were going hungry, while certain select individuals were buying up the shares given to the Russian people with money from foreign banks and sending the profits to offshore accounts.

Yeltsin was doing what the oligarchs in Ukraine have been doing, stealing from the IMF loans and when Yeltsin panicked and feared his family would suffer for it, he turned to the only person he knew was trustworthy, and that was Vladimir Putin. He put him in charge until an election could be held. When Putin was voted into office, the first thing he did was tell the oligarchs that they could hold on to their ill-gotten gains as long as they paid their taxes and kept out of politics.

Those who refused to pay their taxes, ran out and then together with their cohorts in the British and US government, they started demonizing Vladimir Putin. Sharon Tennyson who worked in Russia and had met him, felt there was no way Putin would be able to handle the powerful oligarch and governors, but he did.

The mistake the US makes is that they assume Vladimir Putin is like our president and is dependent on the rich for support, so they've been sanctioning them thinking that they'll get furious and oust Putin. But Putin's support comes from the Russian people as well as the Intelligence agencies, not from the oligarchs.

 

That's correct. Shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union during Yeltsin's time, Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet Republics were run by corrupt politicians and various mafias....and in a lot of cases...they were one and the same. Putin cleaned up the corrupt politics and mafia. This did not happen in Ukraine.....it is still basically the same as it was 30 years ago.

Putin ushered in capitalism and reformed the justice system by bringing back jury trials. He's basically built a country from the ground up. That's why people vote for him.

Ukraine, on the other hand, is still corrupt as hell and sticks its hand out for US taxpayer welfare damn near every chance they can conjure up. They are playing us for fools.

 

Wow... where to begin. First off, we've never had enough Soldiers to wage a football game in Syria. Just some Special Forces folks for emergency operations.

There was nothing illegal about the invasion of Iraq. Any sovereign nation can, under international law, take the steps it see as necessary to protect itself. The UN never objected. But your information does not stop being biased with just that issue. The bombing of Belgrade was a one time event to send a message to the mass murderer who was slaughtering so many people at the time. We never had much going on in Syria, although we did have some very small contingents of Special Forces there. The Russians, on the other hand, occupy Syria with massive forces including a huge naval base. Russia has wanted a warm water port in the west since Peter the Great... now they have it.

Putin doesn't force his power on others? Ask the Ukraine about that. And the Crimea.

 

I don't think Ukraine will be around much longer - not with their mentality, nor Nato's mentality. To protect the people in the Donbas from an attack, Putin gave them Russian citizenship. This means that any attack on them by Kiev will draw Russia into the war.

Also Russia has drawn certain red lines. Moscow can be hit from certain parts of Ukraine within 10 minutes, and if hypersonic missiles are used, in 5 minutes - something Russia cannot allow.

In order to prevent a war, Putin has demanded a new Start Treaty. One that will have certain written guarantees that Nato will not advance further east, rather than the verbal one's that were given the last time and that Bush and then Clinton ignored.

To fully understand the stupidity that exists in certain quarters, when Stoltenburg was told, instead of realizing that certain missiles would be an existential threat to Russia, and would leave the Kremlin with no choice but to go to war, he began talking about Ukraine's sovereignty.

 

America has thousands of troops in Russia right now. When Trump gave them JAVELIN anti-tank systems we sent hundreds of troops to teach them how to use it. Later, at their request, we sent an entire Brigade Combat Team which is still there. I'm so jealous. I wish I could see the Ukraine. I got to know Germany quite well in my ten years stationed there.

 

Lol...no they're not ignorant carsy boy....most Americans see what a gongshow of a "democracy"....Mafialand is.....Vladolf Putler has been there 20 years....going on life.....you tell me dude.

 

Are you saying Iraq was going to attack the US?

The UN didn't object to the first Iraq war, but it did to the second one.

Miloshevik was found innocent of all charges during another person's trial at the Hague. This was after they killed him in jail by giving him something to stop his heart medication. That way he wouldn't be able testify and prove his innocence.

According to a French General at the meetings, the wars were instigated by Germany to break up Yugoslavia, and they did it in a way that would punish Serbia for fighting against Germany in WWII while favoring its former allies Bosnia and Croatia.

The US entered Syria under the pretense of fighting ISIS, when in reality it support ISIS and especially Al Nusra/Al Queda to overthrow Assad. The so called 'moderate' terrorists, that we were training and giving arms to, were one and the same with Al Nusra.

Other than the jets that bombed the Syrian army whenever it was defeating ISS under the pretense of a chemical attack, there were American, British, Turkish, Israeli and Saudi agents embedded with the terrorists. That they got out alive is thanks to Vladimir Putin.

Russia on the other hand was invited into Syria by its legitimate government. What Washington can't understand, is that Russia's relationship with Syria is a historical one going back at least to Catherine the Great. It was a time when Moscow saw itself as the protector of the Orthodox Christians from Western European and Turkish incursions - in the same way that France saw itself as the protector of Catholics.

Ask what people in Ukraine? The Russians in the East or South, or the Galatians in Western Ukraine that were installed by Nuland?

Vladimir Putin was not the one that caused the coup and overthrew the legitimately elected president in Kiev. As for Crimea, you're thinking of the Ukrainian invasion and occupation of Crimea in 1995. Before that it was an independent nation. When the fascist junta was installed in Kiev, Crimea re-instated its independence from Ukraine and asked the Russians stationed there to protect them while they held a referendum.

The reason the Crimean people voted to be with Russia rather than independence, was because they feared another invasion from Ukraine and needed Russia's protection.

 

LOL... Seeking protection from Russia is like asking Jeffrey Dahlmer to babysit your kids... LOL

 

As evidence sees it....basically everyone....including their dog has bolted for the EU/Nato since the breakup of Warsaw Pact and old USSR.

 

The people in Crimea speak Russian, conduct business in Russian, go to school in Russia and marry Russians. They are Russians for heaven's sake.

 

Americans speak English. Six members of my alma mater are Rhodes Scholars this year and will attend an English school. Lots of Americans marry UK gals... my dad married a gal from the UK. But we're not British... for Heaven's sake.

 

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Crimea was bribed Jenny....along with a sham "referendum"....that gathered 113%....its going dry I hear....and all economic data is "classified "....wonder why?

If a free vote were held....the results would've been different.

 

But the Crimean people are Russians. It was always a part of Russia, until Khruschev made it part of the Ukrainian administration.

What you're saying is that if we collapsed as a nation, and Texas suddenly found itself a part of Mexico, that the Americans in Texas should give up their language and heritage and become Mexicans regardless of whether they want to or not. And if they don't like it, they should all get up and leave.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, 20 million Russians found themselves living on their own ancestral lands, but not inside of Russia. These people want to retain their language and heritage - which should be everyone's right, but instead of respecting that so that they'll want to remain living within their present borders, they are being treated as second class citizens.

The name Ukraine means the outskirts in Greek. In other words it was the outskirts of the Russian world. It was never a country, or it would have had a king - which it never did. When the Mongols took over Russia, the Western part of Ukraine fell under the Polish Lithuanian Empire and Rome. The Eastern part refused to go under Rome, and went back under Russia and the Moscow Patriarch so that they are two different cultures.



The blue and purple was part of Russia. The green was part of Poland.

 

America was part of Britain too... until Washington, et al, made it independent. If America collapsed, Texas would become a free and independent nation as it once was. Other entities would seek to become a part of US, not the other way around.

Ask the Ukrainians if they want to be the "outskirts" of any other nation. Then ask them if they want to be free and independent. Since leaving Russia they have already made it clear. But you can ask them again. I am not sure they care at all abut what happened in the days of Rome. They are concerned with the FUTURE... their children, their children's children and so forth. What happened a thousand years ago, gees, what happened 50 years ago, is of no concern to people that yearn to be FREE.

 

It's not a case of "outskirts "...thats a BS Russian insinuation....they'll use the same thing on the Baltics claiming a "one people". It's all propaganda....the Kremlin $hitnugget simply cannot let go....he has delusions of grandeur....which is hopeless and equally dangerous.

 

The Baltics are amazingly independent. Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania have established some FANTASTIC joint ventures with the USA, have LOTS of American troops stationed within their borders now.. full up Brigade Combat Teams in each one. Putin is late. We are in full up partnership with Eastern European nations now. NOTE: The number of troops we once had in Germany was huge. When I served there in the 1980's and 1990's we had about 300,000 folks there. Its mostly gone, although not all, as we moved into Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and the Baltic States. I wish I was young enough to join them.

 

This is an ethnicity map of Russia in 1914. All of the pink area is ethnic Russians.



1914 map:



When the MSM with their fake news says the 'Russians are invading'. Hell, they were already there. That's the point @Jeannette referred to....20 million Russians lived in Russia then Lenin screwed it up and it finally turned into a catastrophe in 1992.

 

Wow...a silly map where Russkis stole all the land.....Warsaw and Helsinki Russki towns....ya don't say....are there Russki vatnik speakers there....what about Budapest....thats Russian too....who would known carsy boy.

This type of map makes for good a$$wipe in some Siberian outhouse in -30 Temps....lol.

 

Yeah, there are Russian speakers there. But you wouldn't know that because you've never left the MSM TV screen. You're one of those types that thinks everyone in Ukraine speaks Ukrainian, when in fact only a minority does. Why don't you take a nice vacation to the French Riviera. The menus are in French, English and Russian. They damn sure aren't in Ukrainian....you can find them in Lviv, Poland.

 

Ohh....theres Russki speakers in Warsaw, Helsinki?...funny...when I was in Warsaw in 2016 I heard no Russian whatsoever....I didn't see any Lenin statues either....maybe you can quote a link carsy.....)....next you'll say there Russian speakers in Anchorage too?....downtown Seattle?...Portland?...).

Yes...French Riviera great place....you been there?....you sure get around?....sure you'll find Russkis there....probably more so than Crimea....at least all "data" in FR isn't "classified" like it is in Krym.