Russia pokes out NATO’s eyes ! - American machinations in Syria stand Blind & tupid

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    Russia pokes out NATO’s eyes ! - American machinations in Syria stand Blind & Stupid
    It is no wonder they got their Theodore Roosevelt Flotilla, the Hell out of the Gulf ! :eyepopping:

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    Russian Jamming System Changes the World Military
    Balance in Favor of Russia and Against the United States

    Monday, October 19, 2015 21:04 - by Thierry Meyssan
    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...ia-and-against-the-united-states-2750696.html

    The Russian Army Asserts Its Superiority In Conventional Warfare

    Moscow’s military intervention in Syria has not simply overturned the fortunes of war and
    spread panic throughout the ranks of the jihadist groups. It has also shown the rest of the
    world the current capacities of the Russian army in situations of real warfare. To
    everyone’s astonishment, it has proved to possess a system of signal jamming capable of
    rendering the Atlantic Alliance deaf and blind. Despite a far superior budget, the United
    States have just lost their military domination.

    The Russian military intervention in Syria, which was at first considered a risky bet by
    Moscow against the jihadists, has transformed itself into a demonstration of power which
    upsets the strategic balance of the world [1]. Originally conceived to isolate and then
    destroy the armed groups equipped by states who support the jihadists in violation of the
    pertinent resolutions of the Security Council, the operation has now blinded all the
    Western actors and their allies.

    The Pentagon is now divided between those who tend to minimise the facts while
    attempting to find a weakness in the Russian system, and those who, on the contrary,
    consider that the United States have lost their superiority in terms of conventional
    wafare, and that it will take long years before they are able to recover it [2].

    We remember that in 2008, during the war in South Ossetia, although the Russian forces
    had managed to repel the Georgian attack, they had above all shown the world the
    deplorable state of their equipment. And only ten days ago, ex-Secretary of Defence
    Robert Gates and ex-National Security advisor Condoleezza Rice were describing the
    Russian army as a « second-rate » force. [3].

    So how has the Russian Federation managed to rebuild its defence industry, and to design
    and produce very high-technology weapons without the Pentagon measuring the
    importance of the phenomenon, and allowing itself to be over-taken ? Have the Russians
    used all their new weapons in Syria, or do they have other surprises in reserve ? [4]

    The confusion in Washington is so great that the White House has cancelled the official
    visit by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and a delegation of the Russian Chief of Staff.
    This decision was taken after an identical visit to Turkey by a Russian military delegation.
    There is little point in discussing the operations in Syria, because the Pentagon does not
    know what is happening there. Furious, the « liberal hawks » and the neo-conservatives
    are demanding a relaunch of the military budget, and have succeeded in stopping the
    withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.

    In the most bizarre fashion, the Atlantist commentators who are witnessing the out-
    distancing of US military power are now denouncing the dangers of Russian imperialism
    [5]. And yet Russia is only acting to save the Syrian People, and proposing that other
    states work in collaboration with them, while the United States, when they enjoyed
    military pre-eminence, imposed their economic system and destroyed a number of states.

    We are obliged to note that the hesitant declarations by Washington, published during the
    Russian deployment before the offensive, should not be interpreted as a slow political
    adaptation of official rhetoric, but should be understood for what they actually reveal –
    the fact that the Pentagon did not know the terrain. It had become deaf and blind.


    A System of Generalized Jamming
    We know, since the incident of the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea on the 12th April
    2014, that the Russian Air Force has at its disposition a weapon which enables it to jam all
    radars, all control circuits, all systems for the transmission of information, etc. [6]. Since
    the beginning of its military deployment, Russia had installed a jamming centre at
    Hmeymim, to the North of Latakia. Then, suddenly, the USS Donald Cook incident
    occurred, but this time within a perimeter of 300 kilometres – which includes the NATO
    base at Incirlik (Turkey). And this is still going on. Because the event happened during a
    sand-storm of historical proportions, the Pentagon first thought its measuring equipment
    had malfunctioned, but then discovered that it had been jammed. Completely.

    Modern conventional warfare is based on what is known as « C4i » – an acronym which
    corresponds to the English terms « Command », « Control », « Communications », «
    Computer » and « intelligence ». The satellites, planes and drones, ships and submarines,
    tanks and now even the combatants themselves, are all connected to one another by a
    system of permanent communication, which enables the Chiefs of Staff to oversee and
    command the fighting more efficiently. It is this entire system – NATO’s nervous system –
    which is presently jammed in Syria and part of Turkey.

    According to the Romanian expert Valentin Vasilescu, Russia has installed several
    Krasukha-4, equipped its planes with SAP-518/ SPS-171 jamming equipment (like the
    plane that overflew the USS Donald Cook), and its helicopters with the Richag-AV system.
    Besides this, it is using the spy-ship Priazovye (Project 864 Vishnya class, to use NATO
    terminology), in the Mediterranean [7].

    It seems that Russia has agreed not to interfere with Israëli communications – a US
    preserve – which means that it will not deploy its jamming system in South Syria.

    Russian planes have enjoyed the privilege of violating Turkish air space many times. Their
    purpose was not to measure the reaction time of the Turkish Air Force, but to verify the
    efficiency of their jamming capabililies in the area concerned, and also to keep an eye
    the installations which are at the disposition of the jihadists in Turkey.


    High-Performance Cruise Missiles
    Russia has used several new weapons, like the 26 stealth (or LO technology) cruise
    missiles (3M-14T Kaliber-NK), equivalent to the American RGM/UGM-109E Tomahawk [8].
    Fired by its fleet in the Caspian Sea – with no military necessity – they reached and
    destroyed 11 targets situated at 1,500 kilometres distance, in the non-jammed area – so
    that NATO could appreciate their performance. These missiles crossed Iranian and Iraqi
    air space at an altitude varying between 50 and 100 metres, depending on the terrain,
    and flying just four kilometres away from a US drone. None of them were lost, compared
    to US missiles, which have a margin of error beteen 5 % and 10 %, depending on the
    models [9]. At the same time, this salvo demonstrated the waste of the incredible sums of
    money spent on the useless « anti-missile shield » built by the Pentagon around Russia –
    even though it was officially intended for protection against Iranian launch sites.

    Taking into account that these missiles can be fired from submarines situated anywhere in
    the oceans, and that they can transport nuclear warheads, the Russians have clearly made
    up for their delay as far as launchers are concerned.

    Finally, in the case of a nuclear confrontation, the Russian Federation would be destroyed
    by the United States – and vice versa – but would win in the case of a conventional war.

    Only the Russians and the Syrians are capable of evaluating the situation on the ground.
    All the other military information from other sources, including the jihadists, are without
    foundation, since only Russia and Syria have an overall picture of the terrain. Moscow and
    Damascus intend to profit as far as possible from their advantage, and are therefore
    keeping their operations secret.

    From the official communiqués and the confidences of certain officers, we may conclude
    that at least 5,000 jihadists have been killed, including several leaders of Ahrar el-Sham,
    al-Qaïda and the Islamic Emirate. At least 10,000 mercenaries have fled to Turkey, Iraq
    and Jordan. The Syrian Arab Army and Hezbollah have re-captured the area without
    waiting for the promised Iranian reinforcements.

    The bombing campaign should end by the Orthodox Christmas. The question which will
    then have to be answered is whether or not Russia will be authorised to finish its job by
    pursuing the jihadists who have found refuge in Turkey, Iraq and Jordan. Failing this,
    Syria will have been saved, but the problem will still not have been resolved. The Muslim
    Brotherhood will not fail to seek revenge, and the United States will not fail to use them
    again against other targets.


    Keep I Mind
    The Russian operation in Syria was designed to deprive the jihadist groups of the
    support they receive from various states under the cover of aid for the « democratic
    opposition ».

    The operation demanded the use of new weaponry, and transformed itself into a
    demonstration of Russian force.

    Russia now has the capacity for jamming all NATO communications. It has now
    become the primary power in terms of conventional warfare

    This performance has stoked discord in Washington. It is still too soon to say whether
    this will favour President Obama, or whether it will be used by the « liberal hawks » to
    justify an increase in the military budget.

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    America should stay out of Syria.
     
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    The U.S. should stay out of Syria unless there's a group with the desire and ability to attack the U.S. If that happened, then nothing could keep the U.S. out, even Russia.
     
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    The Russians want to clean out Syria by Orthodox Christmas which falls in January. The terrorists have run into Turkey, Jordan, and Iraq and they are not ones to give up...so they will be back. This might be why Russia is building a permanent base in Syria. It wants to make the country safe for the Syrian people...and yet also protect itself from terrorist incursions.

    It's really a big problem for them...but it would be easy if the West cooperated. So what's next? Libya, Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia...
     
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    Russia sneakin' Iranian weapons into Syria...
    :omg:
    Russia Flying Iranian Weapons Shipments Into Syria, Sources Say
    Oct 29, 2015 | Russia has helped Iran deliver weapons into Syria twice a day over the past 10 days, western intelligence sources tell Fox News.
     
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    Maybe Obama will draw another line in the sand ? :roflol:
     
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    The worship of Putin by some continues.
     
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    This is not the worship for Putin and Russia. Just now, Russia is doing everything right and people support it. People support the right actions.
     
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    I see the Russian propaganda machine has another tool besides defender of delusions.
     
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    So back to the unwelcome topic at hand - Russian Jam & US Pork :mrgreen:
    Which is going to leave the worst taste in your mouth ?! :eekeyes:

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    The Great American Military Rip-Off :flagus: :salute:
    And Why Russia And China Are Gaining In Defense


    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/10/...-why-russia-and-china-are-gaining-in-defense/
    ................................... follow links in Dark Green

    from the article
    Is the rest of the world catching up to the US in the military arena? - Is the
    US simply bogged down with too much politics, pork and pink elephants?

    In a recent post by Washington’s Blog, the case has been made for Russia
    and China making significant gains on the US position of global eminence,
    and it explains why. This from Washington’s Blog…

    "TRILLION DOLLAR LEMON:
    US F-35 Fighter project has deemed the country’s most expensive failure ever.

    “The SecDef [US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter] issued this warning
    ..........................before Russia stunned the U.S. with its long-range missile
    ................................... and electronic communications-jamming capacities.
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    tHe rUsSiAn wAr mAchiNe is jUnk. nO matTer hoW mAny timEs yoU tRy tO clAim othErwise.
     
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    :roflol::roflol: - You Wish in Vain ! - :smile: :roflol::roflol:

    As Yankees slip in Pork Grease and run scared
    of Russki Jam & get one of their gigantic floating
    ............................ coffins to Hell out of Dodge :chew:

    Your Carriers have been made as Obsolete as Typewriters
    ............................... Only they will make even better Anchors

    http://www.stripes.com/news/as-uss-t...-gulf-1.372488
     
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    haha!!!!

    never will happen.

    if anything, Russian will become the target of more Muslim terrorism.
     
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    I prefer getting my information from the horses mouth, so I would take what Fox news says with a grain of salt. I believe Iran had some Al Qud forces or advisers in Syria, and that Russia was selling Assad arms, and I did read that Russia will be increasing the arms lately...so are they Iranian arms, or Russian arms? I know that the Russian planes fly to Syria via Iran right now, because when their fighters flew to Syria, they hid under the transport planes.

    Maybe Russia is planning on establishing a permanent military base as a sense of security, now that no one trusts the US. It would be interesting to know what the talks with Assad were about, and why the red carpet treatment with all the Russia dignitaries. Anyway the Russians are very secretive.
     
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    BeforeitsNews is a garbage website and their writers are morons. The USN always pulls their ships out of the Persian Gulf and into the Indian Ocean.. Its SOP for decades.

    Putin's problem is his pipelines and that he looks like a fool.

    Turkey row leaves Russia stuck with abandoned gas pipes worth billions.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-turkey-pipes-idUSKBN0TM20M20151203
     
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    Is it just me or is there anybody else who feel like at an Eastern European night club while reading the very first post? I didn't know Russians made any agreements with "the grays" but I do know they are deep into this staged SU-24 incident. :)
     
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    You think the shoot down was staged?

    cause I was just gonna mention "the grays" super awesome russian jammer didnt work to well, on that Fencer.
     
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    I would have agreed if you'd mentioned.
     
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    Basically...nothing coming from Russian sources is trusted anymore, and Turkish information is not much better. This leaves everyone outside these places to depend on NATO and the U.N. for anything close to truth. The lies and subterfuge have left both parties in the darkness of "Who Cares anymore".
     
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    But none of the Western medias will give a report from the UN, only the Russian ones will. So how can you find out what going on, unless you read it on the Russian news?
     
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    You can believe whatever you want, or rather what Washington's propaganda networks are telling you...until it's too late.

    Anyway it doesn't matter to me, because events are turning out exactly as they were written down years ago. There's no stopping them, we are heading for a world war...
    :oldman:
     
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    The only world war is Islam vs. the West.

    And it's already started.
     
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    Oh then the Russians shot down their own plane? My gosh when will they stop. First they're burning their own people in Odessa, bombing their own people in the Donbas, buying oil from ISIS so they can kill Russian and Syrians and now this? :wall:
     

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