Russia, Wikileaks, where's the proof?

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  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Most of this #RussianCollusionHoax is based on the theory that Russia hacked the DNC & John Podesta and gave the information to Wikileaks.

    The only "proof" I've ever seen offered is 17 intelligence agencies have said that it is likely. I've never seen any proof offered. Julian Assange himself denies adamantly that he got it from any government including Russia.

    I'd also like to point to an obvious flaw in this theory. Why would Russia give up any intelligence on either candidate, especially Crooked Hillary who was expected to win? As a former intelligence analyst myself, it doesn't add up. If Crooked Hillary had won, they would have great blackmail material against the incoming President Clinton. That would have been great leverage against her. No intelligence agency would give up such valuable information for free.

    The Mueller report didn't show any proof of this alleged liaison between Russia and Wikileaks.

    Serious question, where's the proof Russia did the hack and then gave it to Wikileaks?
     
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    Ssssssshhhhhh. Be very quiet. Do not question Hillary's Deep State. No proof needed....because the Fake News says it's Russia....because 'anonymous sources'. That's all the little people need to know.
     
  3. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like he is entirely innocent...and should have no problem at all in a trial.

    So...let's get it on.
     
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    Given that the only proof that has been presented thus far is the problematic cloudstrike report, and they aren't even charging him with violating the DNC's privacy, one more than suspects that is the last thing they are going to bring up for trial provided the plane he's being transported aboard doesn't magically fall out of the sky or he doesn't have a heart attack on the way here.
     
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    The DNC paid a company called like Clown Strike or something to say the DNC servers were hacked by Russia. They were robbed but didn't call the cops or let them investigate.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's all hope none of that happens.

    I would like to see him tried.
     
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    We're living in the age where proof isn't required any more - neuro-linguistic programming is where it's at.
     
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    I wouldn't exactly heart my feelings but I figure the odds are no better than fifty/fifty. There are way too many people with way more power than they ought to have ever been allowed hate that guy enough to have a bullet put in him if they can't find a more subtle way of doing it.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you side with those who hate and despise you, but go against the man who's trying to draw your attention to that fact? It makes no sense.
     
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    There is no proof, but the American people have been conditioned to accept lies without questions from their government and media.

    Indeed, William Binney says it was not hacked, it was leaked. That seems logical and practical to me. Seth Rich died for a reason.
     
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    Do you believe everything your government and its media tell you?

    The DNC material was not hacked, it was leaked, and that renders the entire narrative void.
     
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    And that's one glaring reason the Mueller Report is just another hit piece on Trump....it's not worth its weight in toilet paper.

    The Mueller Report said the Russians hacked the DNC....but Mueller nor the FBI nor any other intelligence agency of the government examined the DNC's servers.....so how could Mueller come to this conclusion? He can't. He took the DNC's word for it and ran with it as gospel....but it's nothing but hearsay.

    The only evidence related to the DNC's servers is a dead man who had administrator-level access to the DNC's servers and was pissed off that the guy he supported, Bernie, got screwed by the DNC. Assange has already given the answer with his reward for Seth Rich's murderer... Rich walked a flash drive out of the DNC and the rest is Russian hoax history.
     
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    Sometimes, you get the feeling that there are state sponsored hacks that the DNC work, actively, to under report. It's like Chinese hacking never matters to them. For the DNC folk, it just seems they are entirely willing to ignore that..

    I just can't stop wondering why someone who was being murdered because they were being "robbed" just never got around to being robbed, just murdered.. The DC popo never stop underserving and underperforming..
     
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    On the specific point of Russia's transfer of hacked material to Wikileaks I invite you to read this...............
    Read Mueller probe indictment of 12 Russians for hacking Democrats

    http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/read-mueller-probe-indictment-of-12-russians-for-hacking-democrats/3087/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_indictment:homepage/story

    ................or Mueller's report. Page 45 of Vol. I covers "GRU's transfer of stolen materials to Wikileaks."

    I will use this as a measure of your willingness to admit you are wrong on this matter in the face of unequivocal factual evidence.

    The ball is in your court.
     
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    If the cops found out who killed him, it would lead back to the DNC. I'm sure the same people who told Chicago to give Jesse a pass are involved here too.
     
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    Your desire to see an innocent put on trial is telling.
     
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    There is no proof as Crowdstrike was one of the unauthorized contract entities that was listed on the Admiral Rogers initiated report. Just some assertions.

    17 agencies accepted the FBI assumption that Crowdstrike was operating as a legitimate player.
    The FBI never had access to the server.

    Bottom Line: Crowdstrike was being paid by the DNC where Hillary Clinton held all of the purse strings.

    Yet another bogus part of the HOAX which the media has no interest in reporting.
     
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    I have an idea/. Let's get Mueller in front of Congress and we can ask him. Till then we have HIS confidence in the Report that the Russians DID do the hacking.
     
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    Strange you couldn't find it in the Muller report.
    Try the work hack in the word search.
     
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    Trials? Aren't trials conducted for the purpose of determining guilt or innocence of someone CHARGED will a crime based on actual evidence? Or are you talking about the Salem Trials where they drowned witches to see whether or not if they survived, which would disprove their innocence?



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    We are asked to believe clown strike. A company the DNC paid to say what they want. Seems pretty dumb.
     
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    Just read the report Mr. Satan.
     
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    Does it say who investigated the DNC server? Was it the FBI?
     
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    Okay, I'll try that and get back to you. Funny though that you can't do it.
     

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