Russian & France Civilian murders

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  1. Mineva

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    I am Russian but not live in Russia. Is that really important ? I am just telling the truths.
     
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    Al Jazeera itself not too sure who bombed the market, for now they call it "suspected" Russian attack. So, you too should call it "suspected".

    War is hell, mistakes happen, wrong people die all the time.
     
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    The place is bombed by planes and there are Russian planes in these days.
     
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    Nice, deductive reasoning :roflol:
     
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    What is other possiblities ?
     
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    Of course that is important. Not very patriotic from your side to post such things. How do you know that Aljazeera tells the truth?
    Look for European sources of information. Another point is that death causalities are inevitable during any war. Those who are attacked now would better think when they made terrorist attacks in Paris and exploded Russian airplane with 220 civilians on board in Egypt.
     
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    How do you know that Russian sources are telling the truth? Seems like European sources are constituting the only standards of truth about what's going on in the world. LoL.
     
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    This violence is sickening!
     
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    LoL why ? Looking only at European sources is not being based and one sided ? I can look any sources providing logical evidences. Does not matter belongs which country. Bombing civilian areas randomly is not considered as death causalities, bazaars, schools, homes, hospitals. These civilians didnt held any attack anywhere.
     
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    But you give reference only to aljazeera. Therefore, your point of view is biased for whatever reason (most probably because you live in ME).
    There are no random bombings in Syria. All the bombings that are done- are done by France, Russia and other countries precisely on terrorists. There is no motivation to bomb civilians. So what is said in Aljazeera is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Because they prove their claims by photos and videos. Here another source, a "European" source for you. Crazy people do not need motivations to do something crazy.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arketplace-Syrian-town-controlled-rebels.html
     
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    Al Jazeera is not exactly known for telling truth all the times, and they themselves are calling it "suspected". Perhaps, the bomb was planted at the market earlier on, and went off?
     
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    So Russians are crazy? You know, people do not like traitors.
    These so called rebels are equipped with weapons, so they are rather terrorists than civilians. No complain. Where have you been when 120 people were killed in France?
     
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    I cant defend something wrong, even its done by my father. You should learn to be honest, against yourself first. Does not matter rebels or ISIS or whatever other people is equipped with weapons. There are civilians. We call them civilians because they are civilians. Do you know the meaning of this word ? "Civilian". If you want to kill rebels, you need to attack war zones not bazaars. Civilians didnt kill anyone in France.




    I shared another source too.

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    What ??? Prove me they are rebels or ISIS ?
     
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    He/she Could be an Islamic extremist kicked out of Chechnya by Kadyrov. Here's a few words by him. BRAVO Kadyrov: :applause:


    Assalam alaikum!

    Turkish media says that Turkey always helped the Chechen people. They say I am against Islam and support the infidels. [Turkish media presents ISIS as an Islamic revolution] I have to ask, when, where, and how Turkey helped Chechnya and my people? Show me at least one school, one hospital, one kindergarten, one mosque built as a gift to Chechnya! Name just one?

    What you helped were the Wahhabis, the terrorists, and collected money for them. You treated, sheltered Udugov, Umarov, Basayev. They and their accomplices carried out terrorist attacks, and killed the Chechen people. Is that your help?

    In the 19th century Turkey tricked tens of thousands of Chechens to move to Turkey. Created brutal conditions for them. In five years, more than half perished. Attempts to return home were thwarted by fire.

    Today, Turkey has become a base for recruiting and sending terrorists to Syria. Bandits from around the world go there through Turkey. Very few are detained. Turkey is not fighting ISIS! It does business with it, buys the oil, financing the enemies of Islam, killing thousands of Muslims.

    And more! Who shamefully supported the authors of the cartoons of the Prophet in Paris? I harshly condemned the cursed magazine, gathered more than one million in Grozny who showed a strong protest to the world. Even if the Earth goes up in flames, I will not make a single step against Islam! I am not from that kind of family! I am an enemy of the Wahhabis, the Khawarij, the terrorists. I pledged to fight them for my entire life! And nothing will make me change my mind!

    Russia has almost 30 million Muslims. This is our Fatherland! And the plane downed by Turkey is ours! And the pilot is ours! And you knew that Russia has millions of Muslims, why did you shoot down our plane on the orders of USA and the West, killed our pilot who was fighting ISIS and defending Muslims?

    With your consent and connivance the West destroyed Iraq, Syria, Libya. Now tell me, what are your reasons to accuse me that I am against Islam? I am a defender of Islam! And Turkish authorities help destroy the Islamic peoples and countries! Wake up!
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    When terrorists take hostages, or hide between or behind civilians, like in this case, sometimes civilians suffer. But for this, not the army which make an operation, but terrorists have to be blamed. As for honesty-it is a question not of honesty, but loyalty- you do not select neither the parents, not the motherland, so you should respect them in any case.
     
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    Yes you are right, when terrorists take hostages, ground forces involves in the issue and tries to eliminate terrorists as little as possible civilian loses. Do not drop bombs on them. Russia also has an ugly history about rescue operations.
     
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    So you suggest that Russia sent ground forces there and repeat Afganistan? I am sorry, but I prefer, that they dropped bombs there. Russia should take care about own people lives. Better to sacrify 40 civilians and have no terrorists at all, then to leave one who will blow up later the airplane with 200 passengers or theater with hundreds of people . This is bad that you are screaming about 40 dead civilians (not really known if they were indeed civilians) and silence when much more people were killed in terrorist attacks on France and Russia.
     
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    Okay and I say you prefer to commit war crimes and responding terrorist with terrorism. I can understand you do not want your soldiers to die but this does not mean you are allowed to murder other's innocents to save your own innocents.
     
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    In war with terrorism any means are good and there are no rules in this war. If you remember how all the terrorists who made attack during Olympic games in Munchen were liquidated, it was done in all cases illegally and there were even innocent people who were killed. So-no rules.
     

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