Russian & France Civilian murders

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  1. Mineva

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    Why you always repeat the same things ? Terrorist did it , terrorist did that is not an excuse to murder civilians. Yes there are rules in wars too, have you ever heard about war crimes ?
     
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    One has to question the sources and if this attack actually occurred. It sounds very much like all the propaganda in the MSM about Russia bombing hospitals which were non existent in the first place...except for the first hospital, which isn't damaged at all.


    [video=youtube;lBxI1kaY-w4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBxI1kaY-w4[/video]
     
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    Who told you that they are civilians? And if so what civilians do in the war zone with rebels? You are wrong, there are no rules in war with terrorists. Sounds indeed like Jeannete said here before that you sympathize radical extremists.
     
  4. Mineva

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    This is your responsibility to prove they are not civilians. Which you call as warzone is people's home town. Civilians are not radical extremist.
     
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    Common, most of the civilian people from Syria are already in EU. It is proved, that this area is a concentration of rebellions. There is plenty of information from security services from France and Russia that exchange now data with each other, and from local information sources as well. Noone will bomb the specific places without clear reason to do that. And blaming Russians/French pilots being crazy and bombing the sites without motovations is just a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from your side.
     
  6. Mineva

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    Syrian population seem 22 million in 2009. Atleast %77 of them are Sunni people, so your enemies ! Who do not want Assad. 5 million of them left their country according to UN reports. So there are still 12 million civilian living Syria, only from Sunnis.
     
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    Oh you mean war crimes like these? Yes we have heard of them.

    “He ran out of the house after he saw smoke rising from a nearby building, worried that there might be people trapped inside. He wanted to help,” said a relative. “On his way there he was hit by a sniper.”

    Olas was a Kurd in the small Kurdish-majority town of Silopi, close to Turkey’s border with Iraq. Since the Turkish government tore up a two-year truce with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK) in July, it has deployed a new weapon in the towns and villages of the south-east: sharpshooters.

    “Five snipers just kicked our door in and set up camp on the roof of our house, from where they shot at people in the street, at our neighbours’ home,” said Nahide, 19, pointing to the damaged door of her family home. “They stayed there for hours. We collected a whole pile of bullet casings after they finally left.”


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-killed-snipers-turkey-cracks-down-militants
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mineva I have news for you, those Sunnis in Syria are fighting together with Assad, not against him. They do not want sharia law imposed on them by foreign terrorists.

    But look, you should know that Syrians have no love for Turkey. Nor does any other country in the area. Hmmm, I wonder why? Maybe a little self analysis would be in order.
    :lol:
     
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    It all started when the USA went to Afghanistan and bombed that country to smithereens, then went on to Iraq and bombed that country to smithereens. Then they went on to Somalia, Libya, Syria, Yemen, leaving behind destruction and several million dead people.

    The USA created Chaos in those countries, a plan and tactic repeated over and over.

    WHY did the USA do that? Revenge for 9/11? Apparently, yes! The 3000 dead New Yorkers have been revenged with ? x-number of million Muslims dead!

    Talk about proportions!!!

    "If you are not with us, then you are against us!"


    And so, many western Nations joined the USA in destroying an entire section of the Earth... the section that has lots of oil and was mainly inhabited by MUSLIMS!

    Coincident? :disbelief:

    Now comes the "clean-up"! More bombing of same countries and same people... the Muslims.

    "Flee to Europe", they tell them. "Mrs. Merkel is waiting for you with open arms!"
    Yes, indeed she is! As a very obedient vassal of the USA she sacrifices her country and tries to accommodate millions of refugees.
    She feeds them, provides clothing for them, puts them into housing units or confiscated private houses and apartments. They get free medical and dental care. Eventually, Frau Merkel hopes, they can all be integrated and become productive German citizens.
    Thank the Lord for this precious gift!!

    Oh, one little fly in the soup: Some Muslims have become "terrorists!" They try to defend their countries and people. Of course, they are only a ragtag little army with stolen or black market primitive weapons. But they sometimes manage to do some real harm on their torturers, like the recent Paris attacks.
    Then, of course, all hell breaks loose! How dare they! How mean of them!

    Retaliation starts all over in increased strength!

    These days, one has to be very thankful and praise one's luck not to be born a Muslim!!!
     
  10. Mineva

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    Jeannette as I said my pre post. Does not matter its committed by whom. You just need to prove it. There is no proof in your link. Just a claim.
     
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    So according to your claim even Sunnis want Assad but only 5 million of total 12 million voters was participated in 2012 parliament elections ?
     
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    A war crime is violation of law of war. For something to be considered as a war crime there suppose to be a war going on. However, what happens with PKK is no war because PKK is not representing any country or nation recognized by no states in the world, moreover it is recognized officially by EU and US as a terrorist organization. So we cannot talk about war for the tension between the state and a terrorist organization in Eastern Turkey.
     
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    Jeanette is a terrorism supporter Greek. He bites his fingers because of his anger against Turks.

    Here more war crimes for Jeanette : )

    [video=youtube;nnAVMDbEgEs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAVMDbEgEs[/video]
     
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    I wonder why that didn't surprise me. A Greek expecting a shoot down of a fellow NATO nation's plane for violating Greek airspace, LoL.
     
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    For violating what ? their imaginary air space ? LoL
     
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    Very interesting. US recognized PKK as a terrorists organization and now they send military troops to help them:
    http://www.unian.info/world/1195744-us-soldiers-in-syria-to-back-anti-is-kurds-kurdish-sources-afp.html
    So either Kurds are not terrorists, or US back up terrorists in Syria, or you are wrong stating that US and EU recognize PKK as terrorists.
     
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    Let's say "Italian airspace" as Italians left those islands to them.
     
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    No one said Kurds are terrorist. PKK is a terrorist group.

    UK government terrorist organization list (ctrl+f PKK):
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../file/472956/Proscription-update-20151030.pdf

    US government terrorist organization list (ctrl+f PKK):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_State_Department_list_of_Foreign_Terrorist_Organizations

    Let's stop trolling...
     
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    It's a bit like Hamas in Gaza, those cowards hide behind Gazans and the IS cowards hide behind the civilian populations wherever they are. That's probably why the US bombing has been such a failure - the WH/Perntagon are petrified of being accused of 'killing civilians': but how can it be avoided in the above scenarios?
     
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    What are the other possible countries ?
     
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    "the NGO's claims are yet to be independently verified."

    Let's just wait and see shall we? All that's known for sure is that an explosion took place, which might have been a suicide bomber (a suicide bomber in a crowded place? Why, the very idea!), or a gas-fired bakery oven malfunctioned. Stop obsessing about Russia fgs.
     
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    You can hear the jet sounds in the video.

    [video=youtube;F0wOypCgewc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wOypCgewc[/video]
     

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