Russians Get Bloodthirsty Threats By Turks Over Idlib

The situation is heating up over terrorist occupied Idlib that Syria refuses to concede to Turkey, and the animosity towards Russia by Turkey's nationalists are hindering any diplomatic moves and turning it into a flashpoint.

This is a repeat of what the terrorists were doing in Aleppo. They would send missiles into the Christian part of the city under Assad's protection, and when the Syrian army tried to retake it, our propaganda networks would give all their support to the terrorists and demonize the Syrian army and Russia for their indifference towards civilian lives.

To rectify it, the Russians worked out a peace deal with the terrorists as well as with the foreign agents embedded with them in Aleppo and later on in Douma. That allowed the terrorists with their families to escape to Idlib.

-Yet when the American and ally forces bombed and demolished Raqqa and killed 13,000 people, there was not a peep from the MSM.

The Syrian army has now retaken the main highways so that commerce can resume between Damascus and the industrial city of Aleppo. As Syria retakes its lands which Turkey believes is rightfully theirs, since they consider the break up of the Ottoman Empire an injustice, the nationalist hatred in Turkey towards Syria and Russia has intensified. The Russian ambassador to Turkey is now receiving dire threats.

The Russian ambassador is shocked at the “incomprehensible bloodthirstiness” of some of the bloggers. He shouldn't be though, the Turks have a history of it. Those lovely polite people can turn quickly with the least provocation. Suppressed anger I guess. As for the threats, they should not be taken lightly, since a former Russian ambassador was shot in Turkey.

‘I receive direct threats’: Russia’ top diplomat in Turkey describes heated environment amid Idlib tensions.

Russia’s previous envoy to Turkey and Yerkhov’s immediate predecessor, Andrey Karlov, was killed by a Turkish national in Ankara in December 2016. Yerkhov pointed out that the hatred against Moscow and “incomprehensible bloodthirstiness” displayed by some Turkish bloggers and social media users does not help to defuse the situation.​

https://www.rt.com/news/480860-russian-envoy-turkey-threats/

 

How much of this is about Libya?

 

Erdogan right now is desperate for oil. He is panicky not only about losing Syria's resources to the US supported Kurds, but also over losing the illegal agreement he made with the president of Libya over sea rights. General Haftar is closing in on Tripoli to oust the President, and the problems Erdogan has with Idlib in Syria, is keeping him from sending more troops to help the President in Tripoli remain in power.

There's a lot of historical animosity towards Russia by Turkey, and many a war has been fought between them. Russia always felt obligated to support its Christian brethren in the Middle East and Balkans, as well as to retake 'Tsargrad' (Constantinople) from the Muslims. The British though feared Russian power and the last thing they wanted was to have Russia control the Bosporus so they supported the Ottomans. Otherwise the Turks wouldn't be there.

Erdogan's wife is Palestinian so his foreign policy was always at odds with the US and Israel. During the coup, Putin managed to save his life, so Erdogan knows he can't trust Nato and the US. If something should happen to him and someone takes over in Turkey and does something foolish to Russia, like hindering its access to the Mediterranean, that whole area will go up in flames. Russia does not play games.

I toot my horn and dance with glee
when listening to the reverie
of lands a-far. For what I know,
it's but a show and soon they'll go.

But not before they suffer dear
for having poked the Russian bear - Jeannette

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Maybe Russia should rethink selling S-400 missile defense systems to Turkey. Or do they have an override in place.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...urkey-are-close-but-will-disagree-lavrov-says

 

Knuckle-duster Diplomacy is not going to work against Russia, Erdogan would be a lot better off coming to terms with Russia, both in Syria and Libya

 

I betcha they do. They're not stupid.

 

If Turkey was just playing run of the mill politics, yes. Turkey is actively imprealist, it's 'buffer zone' nothing more than Bismarckian conquest (take small bites and seek some level of outside recognition to avoid blowback and repeat until conquest completed). The problem is Russia is doing the same and now that the US is out of the way you're seeing it come to blows. At some point they'll go to war or decide to partition the Mideast between them.

 

The difference between Russia and Turkey, is that Russia will only go where it's wanted to protect people from genocide and ethnic cleansing. Turkey does the opposite. It invades lands and then commits genocide and ethnic cleansing to repopulate the land with Turks.

 

Prussia...

 

"Terrorist" ??
I thought most of these people were fighting for a free Syria at one stage.
13,000 "people" killed in Raqqa? I thought this place was the capitol of the ISIS empire?

How come the Raqqa dead weren't "terrorists" and the Idlib dead aren't "people." ???

 

And that's why Russia invaded Ukraine - the Russian speaking minority there "invited" Russia.
I am afraid - there's a thriving community of Russians here in Australia that might invite Putin
to liberate them. It's a tactic Hitler used to good effect.

 

Maybe Russia can destroy turkey

 

But Australia is not Russia, so why would they want to rejoin? In contrast, Crimea and East Ukraine was always Russia. As for Gallicia in Western Ukraine, they were also Russia - that is until they were forced to go under the Pope - which made them more 'civilized'. So they joined the Nazis to help kill off the Eastern Russian trash.

 

It will! But only if Russia's access to the Mediterranean is threatened.

When Turkey shot down the Russian jet, Vladimir Putin replaced the name Istanbul with its original name of Constantinople. It was a subtle threat, and Erdogan knew well what he meant. There's a lot of history there.

 

Wasn't parts of Poland once a part of the Russian empire? What about Finland?
Russia makes many veiled threats about the Baltic states.
What about the Warsaw Pact countries that were once part of Russia?
But worryingly, it's Russian minorities in nations that were never a part of her
empire that could be used as a pretext.

 

When Russia was bombing E. Aleppo and Gouta to facilitate the Syrian army in freeing them from the terrorists, the MSM screamed to high heaven that the Russian bombs were killing civilians. To pacify them, Russia made peace deals with the terrorists, and allowed them to leave for Idlib with their families. This is the reason there is so much trouble now in Idlib.

Yet when Washington decided to free Mosul of terrorists, they tricked the civilians and told them they had precision bombs and not to leave the city. The stench in the city from the dead bodies was unbearable even after 6 months. The same with Raqqa. There was no passageway for the civilians to leave and 13 thousand were killed, yet no outcry from the MSM. Nothing!

I see only 2 reasons for destroying Raqqa. One is to make sure that the Syrians wouldn't be able to return to their homes, so that it can become a homeland for the Kurds. The other reason is so the Syrians won't have the funds to rebuild their war torn country.

Eliminating a certain group of people the way we've been doing in that part of the world, is ethnic cleansing - and that includes genocide. Our policy makers, who are devoid of any sense of right and wrong, feel that it doesn't matter what they do, providing they can convince people otherwise.

COME ON GUYS!

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It's sociopath time
and time for the sleaze,
to gain what we can
and do as we please.- Jeannette

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Not going to be a withdraw from Idlib. Turkey and Russia are already establishing new points along the M5 highway (The highway that runs from Damascus to Aleppo). This will be the new line. If anything more of Idlib will fall to the Syrian Government so they can Secure the M4 highway, which is another major highway in Idlib.

Also, Aleppo is finally completely liberated and secured.

 

If you're talking about Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, they were part of the Russian Empire since the end of the 18th century

As for using the Russians living there as a pretext, that could be easily eliminated if they were to stop their apartheid systems and gave the Russian people equal rights.

 

The definition of "equal rights" is a problem.
I understand that people of Russian descent already have
equal rights. There are no apartheid states in Europe. Of
course, Putin could pretend there is - what Russian journalist
is going to say otherwise?

It's interesting. I take every ACCUSATION from extremists as a
likely ADMISSION of something - be they left or right, ie Hitler
said the "Jews want war" and the "Jews are overrunning Europe"
Of course, this is a description of Hitler. Same with Stalin often
accusing others of trying to kill him - that's Freudian Projection
language for him wanting to kill them.
So when the Communist speaks about "Imperialism" it simply
means the Communist empire. This is how Russia and China
took Eastern Europe, Tibet, the nine-dash line in Asia etc..
So if I was in Poland, for instance, I would feel uneasy. Putin
and Xi see themselves as emperors.

 

The only good thing about America in the ME is that they keep Russia and the other commies at bay (at least to a certain extent).

This is why Obama was an abysmal failure who lacked a spine when it came to issues in the region, as opposed to Trump.

 

Of course Turkey is going to withdraw from Idlib - eventually. There is no way Assad will give the area to him. And the Americans will withdraw from Raqqa and the oil wells. There are massive protests by the locals, so it's only a matter of time.

Erdogan's 'bubbles' as Assad calls his words, said the Syrian army is invading Turkish lands. Hey Erdogan, you lost the land in WWI. Anyway there are rumors of another coup in Turkey, and this time they are Kemalists which should make Washington very, very happy, and give us the nice WWIII they've been striving for.

 

A flippant remark, "give us the nice WWIII they've been striving for..."
America is striving for WWIII ?
Easy done, just push the button now, take Russia and China
by surprise. Sure, a few US cities will vanish, the economy
destroyed, but like Britain after the two previous world wars,
America would have "won."

 

Poland has never given up on its dreams of restoring its Poland/Lithuanian Empire. What a bunch of fools. Anyone that doesn't fear Russia, has to be. The Poles keep arming themselves more and more, instead of looking at what they're going to face on the other side of the border.

As for the Baltic nations, they're dying anyway. Instead of forcing the Russians out, they're the one's moving. Their populations are dwindling.

Here's a lesson that was never learned: Don't Poke the Bear.

I toot my horn and dance with glee
when listening to the reverie
of lands a-far. For what I know,
it's but a show and soon they'll go.

But not before they suffer dear
for having poked the Russian bear - Jeannette
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Turkey needs Russia. There is a pipeline running from Russia into Turkey carrying Natural Gas. A war or even a major disagreement will see that pipeline cut off. This Pipeline runs through Georgia. This is why Russia invaded them. They secured the pipeline so that Georgia could not siphon Natural Gas from it without paying Russia for it. There is another pipeline that runs through Ukraine that carries heating oil to Eastern Europe.

So, Turkey will eventually concede to Russia. It would hurt them otherwise. Turkey's excursions into Syria is to push the Kurds out of Turkey.

 

Demographics is the same for us all.
Islam will rule.
And not only Islam - the most serious forms of it.
Note Turkey is rapidly losing its moderate Islamic population
and being taken over by the more conservative rural Islam -
hence the rise of Erdogan.