Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I honestly do believe that what you wrote about aliens had to be written......
    and the way you wrote it serves as a great warning for us to not overly depend on aliens..... to save humanity....
    just because they may have off the scale technology.

    I believe that a totally different caliber of alien was involved in certain events of history such as what happened at the Red or Reed Sea.....
    Sodom and Gomorrah.....
    and other crucial time periods.

    I do believe that what near death experiencer Christian Andreason wrote about aliens is accurate....
    and amazingly insightful.....
    my conclusion is that humans should really not be dealing directly with aliens but should be going over their head to an obviously much higher level consciousness such as Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus or the Being of Light of NDE fame who obviously is not mostly predatory.
     
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    I do believe that the exception to that general rule of greater intellect leading to a smaller level of empathy is if the intellect is tuned into the most ancient intelligence that actually planned and worked out an essentially infinite number of Big Bang events over eternity in the past.......

    The most ancient life forms are off the scale altruistic....
    but they also have a firm belief in freedom of choice and our
    need to learn from the consequences of our decisions.....


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    chapter 2:
     
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    True..... but both people as well as aliens need to
    learn more about the "Law of Attraction" and whatever type of
    pessimism we may feel toward our Creator / Creators..... this is
    really some of our own insecurities twisting our thinking.

    The outpouring of the Holy Spirit / Ruach ha Kodesh on all flesh......
    and I really do mean ALL flesh.... was always the plan.....


    Can an angel - human hybrid be saved and go to heaven?

     
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    Could you guys kindly take this to PM and leave the thread on topic? Thanks
     
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    I talked to the aliens in one of my encounters and they were telling me about how humans are polluting the Earth and using resources at a rate that is unsustainable. And I told them we knew that but that we can't do everything we want to do and live a comfortable lifestyle without polluting the world. And that our energy sources like oil pollute the Earth.

    So they said that Nuclear power is a clean energy source, and why don't we use it? And I said that we have Nuclear power but it's dangerous with a chance of meltdown and it produces radioactive waste so we'd still be polluting only in a different way. But they said Nuclear power doesn't produce radioactive waste, and it was at this moment that I realized they were talking about Nuclear FUSION not Nuclear FISSION. So I explained the difference to them, and they said fusion power was easier to do than fission, and I said NO it isn't! They asked why I said that and I said it was because we can do fission but not fusion.

    So then they were curious to know how we do fusion and I said we put it into a containment vessel and try to use magnetism and EM fields to control the reaction, but it just melts everything... And they said no you can't do that to do fusion power. They said we have to use lasers to cool it down and control the reaction, but I had never heard of lasers being used to cool things down before, I had only know that lasers were hot and we used them to cut and melt things.

    And that's about all I remember of the conversation. Then matters turned to the moon treaty and why would we humans need to go to the moon to mine Helium 3 if we didn't use nuclear fusion power. I maintained that one day we would figure it out and then we would want to go to the moon to mine H3. And the aliens grudgingly agreed to that request, that humans could go to the moon, in the treaty.
     
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    It's not like that it's just the enormity of the issue and just how far behind we are evolutionary wise.

    AA
     
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    It realy is just simply too huge an issue for me to comment upon.

    AA
     
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    Stephen Greer Ph. D. has theorized that if the USA government came out fully with all
    that we know about aliens it would not be long before Americans would no longer be willing
    to settle for the internal combustion engine!
     
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    But... Dr. George Ritchie saw life going on in what sounded like five dimensional space time.....
    then he described what went on in sixth dimensional space time, seventh, eighth and it sounded like
    ninth.

    This fits too well with M-Theory or Bosonic String Theory to just be written off as
    not being a part of what is going on.

    Here is his description of the highest level that he viewed:


    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/city-of-light.html#a02
    What he reported about the lower dimensions can be read here:

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html


    I cannot say that Dr. George Ritchie was accurate to state that this was a city of light.....
    but that is how he perceived it.....
    the energetic level of an individual functioning in the energy of eighth or ninth dimensional
    space time would be so far above us humans...... and even above life forms functioning at
    seventh dimensional space - time energy levels.....
    that the technology of the lower dimensions would be a joke to them.

    It seems to me we need to be in contact with the highest energetic life forms if
    we want more altruistic aliens involved in human affairs.

    It seems like we need to ask for this.....

    Oh Wgabrie.... there is a verse in scripture that fits with what you reported......
    I can't say that I like the implications of this though?!


    Jeremiah 31:27

    "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast."
     
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    But that is the whole thing.....
    if the prediction by gifted Christian psychics that President Donald J. Trump has some sort of
    Mantle of Cyrus........ then....... this mantle of Cyrus can be used to market a major shift in the
    USA economy.........

    For example.... I will quote you from another discussion:

    Ocean acidification..

    Here in Nova Scotia and in New Brunswick, there were two cases of
    somebody receiving an experimental Ford LTD that was getting astonishingly
    good fuel mileage.

    The man near Bridgewater, N. S. felt that the fuel guage was broken..... but it
    wasn't...... When he took his car back to the dealership to have the fuel guage
    looked at his car was replaced.

    Somebody in Moncton, N. B. though when they saw their astonishing mileage.....
    and looked at the engine... they knew they had an experimental carborateur and
    they refused to sell their car back to Ford until they got a settlement of over five
    million dollars.

    My theory is that Ford did this deliberately in the late '70's to create an urban legend......
    so that people would know that much better technology had already been patented but....
    the oil companies were keeping those super efficient carborateurs off the market.

    President Donald J. Trump....... has the authority..... TO void patent laws that are harming
    Americans........ and Ford can soon.... with Presidential support.... put an F-150 on the market that
    will get over eighty miles per gallon...... but President Trump needs to bypass USA patent laws!

    The first companies to go on the market with these super efficient vehicles.... will soon
    dominate the market.... and truly.... this will help to set in motion a Cyrus style paradigm
    shift in economics that will strangely remind you of Isaiah chapter 45!
     
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    BS, I don't subscribe to Orwellian mentality ("War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength").
     
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    Hey we evolved in the middle of the Universe's lifespan. Many have come before us and many will come after us. It isn't a race to the top. Thank goodness.
     
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    What are the implications that you thought of?

    That beasts are alien peoples coming into the fold???

    Or that the seed, and we know what that means, actually mix??? :wierdface: (Well it can't really happen that way, that's not actually possible.)
     
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    Now I'm remembering the human congregation on the other side of the hole in the universe. They were playing with timelines and events in different divergent states of reality. What were they doing? And why and how did they track me down on an alien planet, when I visited there for the day???

    P.S. the alien military was certainly interested in stumbling across that place. :alientwo:
     
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    The ICE is kind of a JOKE!! LOL!!

    AA
     
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    I am just trying to find my knife.

    AA
     
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    I used to think like you.

    EXACTLY like you.

    I thought.....PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW!! PEOPLE CAN HANDLE IT!!

    Then one day because I had to do a JOB....I had a need to know.

    I wish I NEVER had to have that need to know.

    It changes you in ways you cannot imagine.

    And people are NOT ready!!

    AA
     
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    No one is in a position to judge what knowledge people can handle or not. Those who claim they are (especially government officials) usually have ulterior motives. Sorry, that's a failed argument designed to prevent others from acquiring knowledge.
     
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    I really don't expect you to understand my reply or even respect it.

    But then again you simply do not have anywhere near the knowledge about this issue as I and as I have told you I wish I did not have to access this knowledge myself.

    I will just try to give you an example as an explanation for my reply and hope it at the very least allows you to gain a small amount of understanding.

    Look.....a person would either have to be a complete idiot or a religious zealot not to know and understand that with anywhere from 100 to 200 Billion Galaxies in this Universe as there are other alternate universal states of reality....and our Milky Way Galaxy has approx. 200 Billion stars that means on average as some galaxies are smaller and some larger there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Stars in the Universe which is a 1 with 24 zero's after it or 10^23rd.

    Now Astronomers estimate 100 billion habitable Earth-like planets in the Milky Way, and 50 Sextillion Earth-like planets in the Universe which means there are a HELL of a lot more NON-EARTH LIKE PLANETS IN BOTH OUR GALAXY AND UNIVERSE as well.

    But we will just think about the Earth-Like Planets.

    Now obviously for one reason or another such Earth-Like Planets may never have had intelligent Space Faring Life evolve on them because of asteroid bombardment or comet impact or like Mars which lost it's protective EM Shield because it's internal core cooled down to the point it could no longer spin and generate the EM Martian Field which means no protection from Cosmic and Solar Radiation which means water chemically splits into Hydrogen and Oxygen Gases so near total loss of all liquid water...etc.

    Some of these planets may have have evolved intelligent life but through war or disease or whatever....Solar Coronal Mass Ejections or Flares or nearby Supernova's.....YOU NAME IT......some of them just either never had intelligent life evolved or they died off.

    But the moment any intelligent civilization develops and understands the UFT or Unified Field Theory.....Interstellar Space Travel becomes EASY.....and QUICK!!

    Now as I said even with all these facts and logic most people STILL label anyone who say's they have seen a REAL ET UFO a KOOK!!!

    We have people still killing each other over religion.

    YOU want to actually allow the WORLD to know the reality because YOU think....and I quote what you posted...." No one is in a position to judge what knowledge people can handle or not."...end quote Bob0627!!!!!???????

    Let me tell you this......I...as in ME....I....and one of the VERY FEW people who is in a position to judge what knowledge people can handle or not!!!!!!

    And why ME???

    Because I have paid for the right with blood and bullets!!

    AA
     
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    I don't think I've ever believed the human species is the only intelligent life form in the Universe, even when I attended religious school. So you don't need to explain or try to convince me on that subject. I also believe some of these have visited our planet, perhaps since it first wasn't a lethal planet to step foot on. I also believe some of these have interacted with our species. All those accounts of alien abductions can't all be BS, there are just too many and often too similar. But that's just me.

    Sorry but that doesn't qualify you to judge whether it's true or not. It's strictly your personal opinion, no more no less.
     
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    I am not here to judge.....I KNOW with 100% CERTAINTY people are NOT READY!!

    Sure.....some people might be ready but they are in the vast minority.

    The Majority once they were told this information by authorities would tear the world apart.

    AA
     
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    No one is ready to die but people aren't tearing the world apart because they know they will die eventually. Maybe back in the day when Orson Welles broadcast the "War of the Worlds", some people panicked but they didn't tear the world apart.
     
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    That's not what I mean.

    We have MILLIONS dying all over the world just because some have different religious ideologies than others.

    Now if we actually released info. on the reality of E.T......the result would make the religious wars look like small gang fights.

    PEOPLE ARE NOT READY!!!

    I wasn't even ready and I am unique as far as such a thing.

    AA
     
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    For the record..... very few people on this earth have done more to
    get out necessary information to common people on this topic than
    AboveAlpha.

    He began the first part of this discussion not too long after joining this
    forum but that thread was shut down because it reached 750 replies.

    I copied and pasted some of his posts to begin this part 2 version because
    this is so interesting and very few discussions get over fifty thousand hits as
    this one has done.

    If you would like to help more people to become aware of this just send the link to this
    to a reasonably well respected writer who has done a good job of dealing with this
    topic in the past.
     
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    This video is an example of how people tend to look at only the negative
    and scary side of this topic.



    Aliens in the Vatican | Tom Horn & Cris Putnam | Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!

    .....



    MUST WATCH! Human Animal Hybrids Exist! | Tom Horn on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!

    (This episode got over two million hits)
     

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