Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

For quite some time now the Russian Government has been talking about releasing a great many old Soviet Files detailing Alien Craft and such craft being sighted by Cosmonauts aboard the Soyuz Space Station.

As well Russian Officials have stated that NASA as well has a great deal of files and video detailing Space Shuttle encounters with curious Alien Craft as well as how astronauts during the Apollo Missions were being studied by Alien craft and beings.

Now I usually don't like to talk much about this as it is a Fire Point subject but given the Russians being so vocal about this and the only reason I can think that they would be so vocal is that perhaps they are concerned by the vast disparity existing between Russian High Tech and American High Tech. that is supposedly augmented by reverse engineering of Alien Tech. recovered at various crash sites over the decades.

Astronauts such as George Mitchell, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Gordon Cooper, Story Musgrave and many others have now come forward to talk about their experiences in space where they encountered curious Alien Craft.

These men being former Astronauts have absolutely NOTHING TO GAIN AND EVERYTHING TO LOOSE by going public with such encounters but as Mitchell has said...when you get old enough you really don't care about the threats and you just want to let people know.

AboveAlpha

 

Where can I read about these alien encounters by US astronauts? It helps if you provide links, as per forum rules...

 

Oh...MAN...there are so many it would take you a week to read or watch them all.

Just Google...Aliens NASA astronauts and you will find a host of sites.

Check out the NASA shuttle mission videos where they encounter E.T. craft.

Especially check out the astronauts names and what they have to say about E.T.

AboveAlpha

 

http://alieninterview.org/Astronauts_testimony.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO53ADBfXos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9euFudUIY


Here are a few!

AboveAlpha

 

"We have no proof" (Neil Armstrong). Lots of assumption, supposition and "testimony" there; lots of alluding to "statistical probability" of alien life existing. But, as Armstrong says; "no proof". Sorry.

 

Which site did you get that from?

Take a look at the links I posted.

AboveAlpha

 

It was from the first link. Spculation is not evidence. I need to see clear, unambiguous, supporting pictures for me to accept testimony as proof. The Russians tell us that they have pictures taken from a few metres. Let's see them.
That said I have no doubt that we are not alone in our infinite universe. Equally, given the unimaginable distances involved, I find it highly improbable that we have been visited. Equally implausible is the contention that an alien spacecraft with all of its advanced technology to enable it to get here, should make it all the way to planet Earth only to crash in a desert in New Mexico!

 

Is it a coincidence that reported sightings were at their highest during the Cold War period?

 

No coincidence; the Russians reported loads as well. Mind you, if you had seen an SR-71 around that time you'd be forgiven for looking for evidence of alien tentacles to go with it...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Lo...dsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:54,s:0,i:252&tx=128&ty=72

They started developing this amazing aeroplane in the 1950s, and the thing was capable of Mach 3 speed-in 1962!

Back on topic though, I have seen some very compelling footage which hasn't had convincing explanations-like the multiple 'E.T' craft over Mexico, for example.

'course it could have been one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4xhSMMjzdc
I want one!

 

I know that the Catholic Church considers them demons, and although I don't quite believe they are extra celestial encounters since it doesn't conform to my Christian beliefs, I thought that calling them demons was a little far fetched...that is until a read an autobiography by Felix Yussopov.

If you don't know who he is, he was the richest man in Imperial Russia after the Tsar, and the murderer of Rasputin. Well he said that once he was going to Saint Petersburg at night, and suddenly the horses began whining and wouldn't go any further because there was a train in front of them. He could see the people inside the cars as clear as day as it was passing, and the driver was dumbfounded and began doing the sign of the cross. He told Felix that there isn't a train line there.

 

Conspiracy theories coming from an insider like you AboveAlpha? That's shocking, or sad I can't decide. I don't think Russia blames aliens for their technology shortfalls behind the USA, they just didn't invest enough in R&D because of their historic corruption and Cold War arms race with the USA left little money to fund science.

Anyway, the French already released their own UFO files to the public, see: GEIPAN (too bad it's mostly in French). People have shown that they won't jump out of windows or riot anymore, not like when the "War of the Worlds" radio drama set off a public panic. If Russia does this I expect other countries will start declassifying their own UFO archives as well in the coming years.

While it's statistically likely that there is life elsewhere in the Universe, it's less likely (until our science can say otherwise) that they found a way to bridge the vast distances to come here, or even to interact with us.

In my impression, the only obvious reason that Governments classified the UFO material (other than to prevent a public panic) was to hide evidence of experimental aircraft tests like stealth fighters and drones. Now that these technologies have gone public there isn't much use to keeping the old records locked up after so many years. It's like how the US Government declassifies a lot of old war stuff after like 50 years or so -- enough time that the released material doesn't threaten national security, or give enemies insight into current government practices, while now being able to enter it into the public archives, for future generations to enjoy, and no longer having to worry about protecting that information as top secret anymore.

 

You took ONE QUOTE from Neil Armstrong in 1999.

Buzz Aldrin who landed on the Moon with Armstrong has been very vocal about the Alien Craft they both saw and so have many other Astronauts.

For you to take one single quote from ONE ASTRONAUT...and refuse to acknowledge the multitude of other quotes and videos and documentation detailing NASA's encounters with Alien Craft....well it just shows that you have an agenda that is specific to either denial of the existence of E.T....or perhaps you are too scared to admit the truth to yourself.

The following details Armstrong talking to NASA on the radio as he sees multiple alien craft on and near the Moon.

During the Apollo 11 moon landing, there was a two minute period of radio silence. According to NASA, the problem arose from one of two television cameras overheating, thus disrupting the reception. What really happened, according to various sources, was that Armstrong and Aldrin saw something else watching them! According to Timothy Good, author of Above Top Secret (198 HAM radio operators receiving the VHF signals transmitted from Apollo 11 to NASA’s Houston headquarters, intercepted the following message which NASA screened from the public in the missing two minutes:

Mission Control:

What's there ? Mission Control calling Apollo 11.

Apollo 11:

These babies are huge, sir … enormous….Oh, God, you wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other space craft out there… lined up on the far side of the crater edge… they're on the moon watching us. (Above Top Secret, p. 384.)

The HAM operator’s radio intercept was widely dismissed by the media, but in 1975 it received unexpected support. Maurice Chatelain, is a retired NASA communications engineer who helped develop the communications system used in the Apollo moon missions. In his 1975 book, Our Cosmic Ancestors, he wrote:

[O]nly moments before Armstrong stepped down the ladder to set foot on the Moon, two UFOs hovered overhead. Edwin Aldrin took several pictures of them. Some of these photographs have been published in the June 1975 issue of Modern People magazine.”
LINK....http://exopolitics.org/first-man-on-moon-dies-along-with-secrets-of-what-he-saw/

I URGE ALL MEMBERS....to view these links for themselves and make their own judgments and I urge you to not let this members ridiculous assertions and dishonest input to thwart your ability to FIND THE REALITY.

AboveAlpha...p.s...Knowledge of this was specific to one of my....JOBS.

 

Take the time to watch the videos of Astronauts...Buzz Aldrin, Gordon Cooper, Story Mustgrave, Mitchell...etc..

They will SHOCK YOU!

AboveAlpha

 

Cooper:
"We took our cameras to film a flying saucer land on three landing gears then take off"

Have you got the film? "no"

Really??? ? He didn't keep copies.

Strange that there is never any details on how the ufo looks - always "blurred" because of for example the sun - could that not be a clue?. If I see a plane flying, I can almost read the flight number. Also strange is that many sightings say that the ufo had lights - lights do not give a function in space!. Extra terrestrial life does probably exist but is it not odd that in this day of nearly all having camera phones, not one detailed photo has been taken. Also odd that the most reported "sightings" occurred just after release of "war of the worlds" and in the 1970's just after the moon landing

 

It is up to the individual to decide for themselves just what they believe.

Because this topic is specific to my one time...JOB...I know the realities.

AboveAlpha

 

Actually they don't shock me. I used to eat that stuff up when I was a kid (and got the resulting nightmares, and just so I'm clear no not the 'abduction' ones, just a fear of the dark night outside), but after the military drones were exposed to the public in the mid/late-2000s, I've grown more skeptical of UFOs over the years. From my perspective anything seen in our skies were early prototypes of drones before our technology allowed the development of military grade drones, and anything in space might be optical illusions, rocks, or tricks of the light that astronauts WANTED to see as aliens because they went to space at the peak of science fiction books era. The Astronauts appear to be projecting what they think rather than any evidence.

Okay, just to be fair, yes, I don't have an understanding of these phenomena. Yes, if I were the Government I would cover up evidence of aliens. Yes, if I had alien tech in my hands I would use everything at my disposal to unlock its secrets.

However, I don't agree with the above astronauts, or conspiracy theorists, because, just like them, I lack public evidence for their claims. Some of the problems I have: Why has nothing been done in the UFO department in decades it's like it's still 1950-70s? Why are the primary media of these objects still photos and videos? Why are we still using SETI after the digital communication conversion (surly we've since understood that signals don't need to be 1:1 signal/messages required by primitive analog tech)? We have the technology to peer deep into the electromagnetic radiation spectrum. We're starting to go into the field of gravity measurements. And, magnetism. Some of the fundamental pieces of the Universe, But still we have nothing? Well, we are still unlocking forces of the universe (Dark Matter), so maybe one day we'll read some information off of these unexplained phenomena.

 

There are alot of UFO KOOKS out there with all sorts of people claiming to have been abducted and such huge numbers of claims are ridiculous.

Now think about this.

I have always posted about the REALITIES of issues and things and to my knowledge I have NEVER posted anything that has been proven by anyone to be fantasy.

Do you think I would just post fantasy now?

AboveAlpha

 

Not only do I believe in space aliens, but I am positive they have offspring here on Earth.

- why yes, I am a teacher. Why do you ask?

 

When a multitude of Astronauts come forward and disclose information about E.T....people should pay attention.

AboveAlpha

 

If a person has been following this it seems over the past 10 years many nations and specific governmental groups within have come forth either releasing or detailing interaction with supposed Alien Craft by their Military's, Civilian Population or Commercial Aircraft Companies.

Such countries as Russia, China, U.K., France and many others have released a great deal of one time Classified UFO or ALIEN CRAFT activity and observation data.

All these countries EXCEPT....the UNITED STATES.

Now I basically KNOW the reason for this but I am curious to see just how many members here might know the reasons for this as well what they might believe.

AboveAlpha

 

Mmmmm. Astronauts are only humans, and humans when stressed, as they were being in a totally foreign and extremely hostile environment, tends to over react. They don't really know what they saw. It can be anything since the cosmos is a really, really big place and we know so little of it. The fact that they are dismissing de facto all natural non ET explanation and jump straight to the UFO theories show how little time they spent analysing and instead espoused their gut feellings.

Life in the universe is rare. You have to get all the right condition and parameters to even have a chance of discovering a life form. The chance of getting a more complex life form than some bacteria or extremophile is even more rare. The chance of having an evolved intelligent life form is exponentially more rare. Given the size of the universe it is highly probable that there are some other evolved life form but we may never find them, and the same is true for them, they may never find us.

Beside, the farther away such civilisation is, even if we pickup a signal or an hint of their existane, such signal or hint is already thousands if not millions of years old and they may have already died off or their sun turned into a supernova. If they are intelligent they will know that it is futile to spend ressources trying to reach a world that may or may not exist anymore.

 

4th...they do not use propulsion...they are using a form of Gravitic Drive which Folds Space/Time thus they can travel from one point to any other point in the Universe One Dimensionaly instantaneously.

Look at the video links I have provided upon another E.T. related topic in the Religion Forum.

It is NASA video detailing Shuttle Astronauts discussing an Alien Craft in close proximity to the Shuttle.

AboveAlpha

 

That is fiction... If you are going this way, then this thread should be in either the conspiracy or humor section.

You are totally ruining your credibility with this nonsense.

 

It's not fiction at all 4th. I do not post fantasy.

I never have and I never will.

I only post what I know for 100% certainty to be a reality.

Look at the testimony of U.S. Astronauts...Gordon Cooper, Buzz Aldrin, Story Musgrave, Mitchell and many others.

THESE ARE ASTRONAUTS! They have NOTHING to gain by saying these things.

AboveAlpha

 

4th...here is U.S. Astronaut Gordon Cooper talking about Aliens.

LINK...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO53ADBfXos

Gordon Cooper is an AMERICAN HERO!

AboveAlpha