Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Anywhere you put yourself in the universe everything around you will appear to be receding. There is no centre.
     
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    I'm still waiting for him to PM me my name ever since he said in a post he knew who I was....
     
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    I think you did an exceptional good job at explaining the unexplainable.

    Nice Job!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Snake...you know for me to post that would be ILLEGAL.

    I have no intention of being thrown off the Forum.

    I made a mistake ONCE concerning this as I accidentally called a member by his actual NAME....the Mod's were kind enough to let it slide....and since they have been very good to me considering my issues...I have no intention to get them into trouble.

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    Center.....can't you English get your own language right!!?? LOL!!!

    I never said there was a center I was simply trying to describe a few things specific to Universal Expansion.

    Although this is difficult for some peple to understand.....aome 13.4 to 13.7 Billion Years ago our UNIVERSAL REALITY BEGAN.....as a WHITE HOLE formed and then began to eject Quantum Particle/Wave Forms existing at a Superexcited State.

    As every White Hole is attached to a BLACK HOLE.....the end of some other Divergent Universal State of Reality occured and an unimaginably massibe Black Hole ripped through it's own Space-Time Dimensionality to eject Quanta and this created SPACE-TIME in out current Universal Space-Time Reality.

    The Quanta eventually slowed from their Super Excited state to become H2 Plasma.....and then well we all know what happened from there.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    See, Alpha, there's British English and then there's American English. You obviously don't have the education or you would have known that we spell things differently (correctly), here.
    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/british-and-american-spelling
    No need to thank me; I'm always happy to educate Americans.
     
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    No, we cannot see to the edge! We can only see as far as our technology allows. This is called the 'observable universe'.
     
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    Dark energy is a hypothesis yet to be proven. Jeez:roll:
     
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    I was pretty amazed when near death experiencer Mellen Benedict stated that Black Holes were the great recycling plants of the universe.

    It has been a long time since I read "Stephen Hawking's Universe." I liked it……… but these kind of insights that NDErs give make for more interesting reading.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05
     
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    The FACT that you didn't realise I was making a JOKE out of the whole Centre, Center.....Airplane...Aeroplane...thing....IS FUNNIER THAN ANYTHING I COULD HAVE COME UP WITH!! LOL!!

    Notice my..."LOL!"....right after I posted it!!???

    COME ON!!!

    You can't possibly be thinking I was serious now can you!!??

    I have been to the U.K. and have been there often and I have always been treated with respect and treated very well and the people were always polite....to a fault one might even say.

    Spent a LOT of time there in the Mid and Late 1980's.

    There were a lot of Anti-Nuke Protests going on back then....as we had a lot of Nukes on our bases...still do....and when we deployed the Pershing II Intermediate Range Tactical Missile in West Germany as well there was a lot of Protests going on in the late 1980's and early 1990's...1990,1991 as we....the U.S....were helping the Royal Navy to outfit the U.K.'s Vanguard Class Sub's with Trident System.

    Here is some general information.



    The Vanguard class submarines were designed and built at Barrow-in-Furness by Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering, now BAE Systems Submarine Solutions. The Devonshire Dock Hall was built specifically for the construction of the submarines. The missile compartment is based on the system used on the American Ohio class, although with capacity for only 16 missiles, rather than the 24 aboard an Ohio boat.

    The 'Vanguard' submarines were designed from the outset as nuclear-powered ballistic missile platforms able to accommodate the Trident II D-5. This required the boats to be significantly larger than the previous Resolution class, and they are some of the largest submarines ever built, only eclipsed by the American Ohio and Russian Typhoon- and Borei-classes.

    In addition to the missile tubes, the submarines are fitted with four 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes and carry the Spearfish heavyweight torpedo[18] allowing them to engage submerged or surface targets at ranges up to 65 kilometres (40 mi; 35 nmi). Two SSE Mark 10 launchers are also fitted allowing the boats to deploy Type 2066 and Type 2071 decoys, and a UAP Mark 3 electronic support measures (ESM) intercept system is carried. A 'Core H' reactor is fitted to each of the boats during their long-overhaul refit periods, ensuring that none of the submarines will require further re-fuelling for the rest of their service lives.[19]

    Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher laid the keel of the first boat, HMS Vanguard, on 3 September 1986.[20] The fourth and final boat, HMS Vengeance, was launched on 19 September 1998.

    Warheads[edit]The British government maintains that the warheads used in the UK Trident system were "designed and manufactured in the UK at the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), Aldermaston". However, declassified US Department of Energy documents indicate that development of the non-nuclear elements of the warhead may have taken place alongside those of the US W76 nuclear warhead fitted in some US Navy Trident missiles.[21]

    The National Audit Office noted that most of the warhead development and production expenditure was incurred in the US.[22][23] The US President authorised the transfer of nuclear warhead components to the UK between 1991 and 1996.[24] This has led the Federation of American Scientists to speculate that the UK warhead may share design information from the W76; a practice encouraged by the 1958 US-UK Mutual Defence Agreement.[25]

    Nine joint US/UK underground nuclear tests were carried out at the Nevada Test Site between 1983 and 1991,[26] with many or all of these believed to be tests of the British-variant Trident physics package.[27]

    The final warheads have been assembled at the AWE facilities near Aldermaston and Burghfield since 1992, and are transported to storage facilities in Scotland by heavily guarded overland convoys.


    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Trident_programme

    Oh and just to add.....we spell it PROGRAM....you spell it PROGRAMME. LOL!!!

    You are TOO FUNNY!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Dark Energy is just a NAME given along with the name DARK MATTER.....as Dark Matter acts like regular Matter in that it generates Gravitational Effect.

    Dark Energy is a bit more complex as it is responsible for actually EXPANDING THE SPACE-TIME OUR GALAXIES EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE.

    All Galaxies could not be held together especially SPIRAL GALAXIES like our own MILKY WAY or M-31...the Great Galaxy in Andromeda....as the velocity that Solar Systems are orbiting each Spiral Galaxies central Supermassive Black Hole are too great to be heald in orbit without the additional DARK MATTER as without this DARK MATTER...whatever it might be...and I have THEORY about what Dark Matter and Dark Energy really is....anyways without it.....the Stars and Solar Systems orbiting the Central Supermassive Black Hole of each Spiral Galaxy would SHOOT AWAY AND OUT OF THEIR ORBIT....as the total amout of VISIBLE MATTER....Stars, Planets, Moons, Nebula...etc.....is far too little Mass to generate the necessary Gravitational Effect to keep these Solar Systems in Orbit in Spiral Galaxies.

    They could not stay together.

    Dark Energy and Dark Matter comprise over 95% of our UNIVERSE.

    Galactic Clusters are a result of Galaxies suspending themselves upon DARK MATTER FILIMENTS.

    So it really doesn't matter if it is a hypothesis OR EVEN theory....DARK ENERGY is just a given name for something that is VERY REAL....AND HAS ENORMOUS CAUSE AND EFFECT upon every aspect of EVERYTHING in our Universal Reality.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You are thinking too 3-D.

    TECHNOLOGY....allows us to see 13.4 BILLION LIGHT YEARS OUT.

    At this point there are no more stars or planets or moons or nebula that exist.....as at this distance we come to A WALL OF MICROWAVE RADIATION AND A 379,000 LIGHT YEAR THICK OCEAN OF SUPERHEATED PLASMA.....which is the VISABLE, AND DETECTABLE BY MANY VARIOUS ORBITING SATELLITE BASED TELESCOPES THAT ARE NOT VISUAL LIKE HUBBLE BUT DETECT VARIOUS FORMS OF ENERGY.

    No matter what direction and no matter where these Satellites like CHANDRA AND HUBBLE might point there detection units or scopes.....IN ALL DIRECTIONS AROUND US.....WE VISABLY SEE AND PHYSICALLY DETECT BY OTHER RADIATION DETECTION METHODS.......THIS EDGE OF OUR UNIVERSE!!!

    AboveAlpha...p.s....Google WMAP
     
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    It just looks like to me, that historically human beings have experienced things that are not what one thinks of as normal reality. I have had a couple of those experiences myself, although I do not jump to conclusions as to what these events were. But they were not what one would call ordinary reality. Basically I am just mystified about them.

    I am also intelligent enough to know that we do not understand anything except in a very limited way. We still really do not have a good grasp on what consciousness is, if it is created by the brain, or if the brain is just a transceiver and reducing valve of consciousness. Knowing what consciousness is, would move us along exponentially though, but it is probably impossible for consciousness to actually fathom itself. You need an outside view in order to do that, and we cannot move outside of it.

    If the physicists like Campbell and other men of science are correct, and Consciousness is Fundamental, not matter, then many of these weird experienced events would make at least some sense. For they would simply be manifestations of consciousness, kinda like quirks, that do not fit in with the rest of perceived reality. And they would be as real as the table that holds this laptop I am looking at.

    What is absurdly funny to me, as well as having its own dose of arrogance, are those people who believe falsely that they have a complete grasp of reality, and make fun of those people who actually see strange things that do not fit in with what we perceive of as ordinary reality. In almost all of these cases, when the ones who poke fun experience something like what these others report, suddenly their minds change and they show themselves as being very tentative in their beliefs. Personal experience, especially big ones tend to change how people believe about particular things. That is the power of personal experience.
     
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    I can't remember where I read this but someone did a study of the number of reported ALIEN ABDUCTIONS that were being reported by people in a by the lake area of Illinois that if these reports of Alien Abduction were facts it would have ment that in one night in a 5 mile by 5 mile area 14 abductions would have taken place and that at least 4 a night for a year!!!

    This of course does not mean there are not actual abductions that have taken place and from the little I know about this subject and there were a few men who have known EVERYTHING THAT HUMANITY KNEW....and these people were by order of knowledge of E.T.

    #1. George Bush Sr.
    #2. Ike.
    #3. Truman.
    #4. General Curtis LeMay.
    #5. Soviet Leader Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev.


    These are the top 5.

    There are many others who knew or know quite a bit but these 5 had 100% ACCESS to all information and contrary to what most people think when it came to E.T....this was an topic the U.S. and Soviet Union talked about.

    I know the smallest amount about such things and I wish I didn't.

    When a specific Politician asked George Bush Sr....."What the HELL is going on? We obviously must know a great deal abut this subject?"

    Bush Sr. answer was...."You don't know the half of it."

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    If only they had access to this 'alien' stuff how come you know all about it? Sorry, I'm not buying. This is exactly the same as all the other 'secret' stuff you claim knowledge of but conveniently can't talk about.
     
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    You and your wild claims that always lack evidence and corroboration. And always accompanied by a hint of the stage magicians insider knowledge, a technique that is guaranteed to gull the gullible. It's just more balls as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Speaking of Russia….. and speaking of funny…… somebody is talking about you again AboveAlpha!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=409337&p=1065017811#post1065017811
    Laura Ingraham: Jeb Defends Iraq Invasion, "There Has To Be Something Wrong With Him"


     
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    By this statement do you mean that these five men would have scored Einstein range or better on an aptitude test or……. do you mean that they knew as much as could be known about the UFO phenomena as well as other secrets?

    President Truman identified very much so with King Cyrus the Great of Persia.

    http://britam.org/Proof/Joseph/joCyrus.html#Truman

    A major surge in IQ and other gifts seem to accompany a near death experience……… so something similar happening after an abduction…….. would not be impossible to imagine I guess?!

    http://nwspiritism.com/nde-spiritis...michael-josephs-nde-interpreted-by-spiritism/
     
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    They were informed at the highest possible level.

    A standing President of the U.S. must have a NEED TO KNOW reason for being given such Classified Information.

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    There have been no Extra-terrestrial visitations to planet Earth since the dawn of recorded history. We know this because every piece of evidence that people use to suggest there have been is easily debunked and no one has ever produced a single piece of conclusive evidence of alien visitation.

    To suggest that people who tell stories of abductions or even seeing crafts as evidence ignores the fact the in the 1950s the contactee movement had dozens of people telling anyone who would listen that they have relationships with people from other planets and some even saying that they visited planets like Venus and Jupiter.......known to be impossible.

    I want evidence, I think it would be the greatest thing in human history to make contact with another race from another planet. But it hasn't happened.
     
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    What about those cave wall depictions of space men? Some of that stuff on the History Channel seemed kind of convincing. <shrugs>
     
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    The shear vsstness of our Universe and that fact not only does life exist on Earth but because of both Probes and Manned Missions life now exists on the Moon, Mars, Titan and other celestial bodies.

    No matter how CLEAN a CLEAN ROOM might be it can never be 100% CLEAN thus on subsequent missions to the Moon it was discovered that encountering various Russian and American Probes that had landed.....Bacteria existed from Earth in a state of Hibernation.

    Tests were done on several of the U.S. Mars Rovers by the rovers themselves and they also found Earth Bacteria surviving.

    Asteroid bombardment of Mars very well could have been the method by which Earth was seeded for life.

    A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIILITY exists at and above 1 in 10 ^150th.

    The chances that Earth and the other Planets and Asteroids and even Comets Earth Probes have landed on are the only place in the Universe that Life exists is estimates at between 1 in 10^199th to 1 in 10^258th.

    The Probability that Earth is the only place in the Universe where INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS EXIST....and remember Humans are NOT the only Intelligent Life Forms on Earth is at a probability BEYOND A STATISTIC IMPOSSIBILITY at 1 in 10^167th power.

    To think that Humanity is the only SPACE FARING RACE in the Universe IS BEYOND NAIVE!!!

    The evidence that exists.....not the TABLOID EVIDENCE...but very real document evidence of Alien Visitation to Planet Earth is well above any necessary evidence to CONVICT A PERSON OF MURDER IN THE 1ST DEGREE!!

    The greatest and easiest to find evidence are the massive Alien Craft Overflights of Washington DC in the early 1950's and early 1960's and the letters that were found burried in the Dept. of Agriculture Files in New Mexico discovered by total chance that were letters from J.Edgar Hoover to General Curtis LeMay founding member of SAC demanding that LeMay grant Hoover acces to the recovered craft and bodies that were flown to Wright Field now Wright Patterson AFB home of the USAF Reverse Engineering Division.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Are those letters available? I want to read those. How come Congress isn't demanding to see the craft and bodies?
     
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