S. Alexievich (this year Nobel prize Winner): “Putin now lives inside every Russian”

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    The kind of cases happened to the US car produces, like GM, but not to foreign car producers. Neither Mercedes, nor BMW, nor Toyota or Nissan had any problems in US market like this. I do not see the motivation for VW to accept any faults that are not existing in reality. This is just your speculation and conspiracy theory.
    You are wrong. Business do whatever it is profitable for it. When Merkel called German industry to implement sanctions against Russian Federation, guess what Siemens management did? They sent her to hell and continued all the contracts they had with RF.
    Of course, the color of the smoke can indicate about many things. You apparently have no idea what kind of elements can cause cancer.
    Look and educate yourself: http://www.help-patient.ru/oncology/prophylaxis/prophylaxis/carcinogens/
    Sharik, your statement about polluted places in EU without a smoke is a nonsense. Either you provide the exact info, or do not say anything.. Pollution is not a politicized subject- it is a pure chemical subject and how pollution affects the people you may know as I said before by going to the local cemeteries in the heavy polluted cities and looking how long people on average live in these cities.
     
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    you know what sharik tries to say? Belrusians got nothing bad from leadership of dirty sovok , and radiation just helps BATE to win matche

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    some western BS , right sharik?

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009–11_Toyota_vehicle_recalls#Recall_timeline

    'not like this' because there was no politics involved back then, but this time the US wants to pressure Germany and its manufacturers.

    it isn't matter of whetether Germans to accept the blame or pay for it. Volkswagen was rattled in order to show Germany what's what and who is the master, in the first place.

    get the idea, smarty? Volkswagen has been busted because Merkel procrastinates with sanctions.

    neither you do or anyone else, so don't be stupid to think yourself educated while having been simply brainwashed; cancer disease is caused by million factors including pollution, but there's no info you can trust concerning pollution as to how it spreads worldwide; this info is distorted for political reason. Chernobyl, for example; there are still people aged 80 or so living close to the reactor since the very day that disaster occured, and they are okay, alive and kicking, while by world ecology organisation their region is labeled as 'polluted'.

    the proof is high level of cancer disease occurrence in the West as opposed to the rest of the world.

    ever heard of Greenpeace, a mafia organisation they hire to attack rival manufacturers?

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    BERLIN, GERMANY - OCTOBER 10: Belarusian author and journalist Svetlana Alexievitch, winner of the 2015 Nobel Prize in literature, is seen during a press conference at the Federal Press Office in Berlin, Germany on October 10, 2015
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    vatniks have 0 chance to be so successful
     
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    I give up here :grin: Just say that I disagree with you on all the above points.
     
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    Very funny. "Apparently, they know better than you and me who deserves and who does not deserve." Very funny.
    You think from a great mind the Nobel committee gave the prize to Obama? And other terrorists?
     
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    in Literature?
     
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    No. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. As well as well as the rest of the terrorists.
    In the field of literature - even funnier.
    For example since 2001. Naipaul (2001) • Kertész (2002) • Coetzee (2003) • Jellinek (2004) • Pinter (2005) • Pamuk (2006) • Lessing (2007) • Le Clézio (2008) • Mueller (2009) • Vargas Llosa (2010) • Tomas Tranströmer (2011) • Mo Yan (2012) • Munro (2013) • Modiano (2014) • Aleksievich (2015).
    All third-grade writers. Who are these people? What do they write? Why do they write?
    Again. Nobel Prize - a perversion and mockery of reason.
     
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    why all writers want to get one, even your ultra nationalistic muscovites? still can not get your point with Obama...

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    sigh on the car: Obama is a du&ch, i sell conditioners
     
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    I do not know what was the reasoning to give Nobel prize to Obama, but there are some exceptions from the rules.
    If you do not know the writers whom you mentioned it does not mean that they are third grade writers. Maybe it just lack of your knowledge? :grin: You have better candidates for the Nobel Prize in literature for this year?
     
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    Litwin, DOI wants to say that all people who get Nobel Prize are terrorists in worst case, or in best case produce just rubbish staff :grin:
    I also think that he thinks that the best candidate for the Nobel Prize should have been Stalin.
     
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    who killed no one, the Jews (Trotsky) and Ukrainians (Khrushchev) did all nasty things in sovok
     
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    Of course have. Speaking about the Russian-language writers, such as - Eduard Limonov, Victor Astafjevs, Andrei Bitov, Fazil Iskander, Yevgeny Yevtushenko....(higher than any nominee several orders of magnitude).
    Or the Belarusian writer Vasil Bykov - an order of magnitude higher talent, than Aleksievich. Have you read her novels? I tried to read it for interest - novel "Zinc boy." About Afghanistan. Below average. Fully political overtones.
    Nobel Prize - an instrument of state influence. Therefore, neither the Maxim Gorky, nor Alexei Tolstoy nor Yesenin or Vladimir Mayakovsky, nor Alexander Twardowski nor Andrei Platonov or Rasputin did not receive - and have not could receive, but writers, always with a certain political context: immigrant Ivan Bunin, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Joseph Brodsky.... Mikhail Sholokhov - the only exception. But in this case with respect to the greatness of Sholokhov other nominees it was so obvious that it is not to give the award was not possible.
     
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    At least Stalin Peace Prize deserves more than any of its received. Stalin, at least destroy fascism. And you live because was Stalin. And even if you do not like Stalin, then you at least Mogi to have respect for the great political figure of his era. For example, in Russia with great respect for Roosevelt, Churchill, De Gaulle and other great politicians....But apparently it is Russian cultural education unlike, let's call it - European.
     
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    Here I would agree with you. Although Victor Astafjev I think has passed away and they normally do not give Nobel Prizes in this case, the rest deserved it. Well, Maxim Gorky, both Alexey Tolstoy and Leo Tolstoy, as well as Yesenin did not need to get Nobel prize to be famous :)
     
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    I think that you are mistaken. It is not Stalin who defeated fascism, but Soviet Army headed by talented generals and Soviet people who worked in the factories 12 hours and more a day.
     
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    No. That you're wrong. First Stalin was supreme Commander in Chief. You have not forgotten about it? Of course, all the difficulties and the burden of war fell on the shoulders of the Soviet people. And first of all Russian. What Stalin said in his speech at the celebration of the victory. (By the way. Marshal Bagramyan (Armenian by origin) wrote: "If a military unit is composed of Russian less than half - military unit does not combat capability") But reduce the importance of Stalin's personality in the history of victory - it is not comme il faut.
    Judging by your words, you zombified Western propaganda. And not familiar with real deeds of Stalin. (I recently was also negatively disposed to the personality of Stalin. But trying to find arguments against Stalin, I was surprised to find arguments in favor of Stalin. It interested me. And the more I studied the issue, the more I admired Stalin.)
    For example. The most "favorite argument of" anti-Stalinists in disputes with their opponents. Almost everyone tries to mention the dozens (or even hundreds) of millions of victims of "bloody executioner Stalin." Let me give just two examples:
    Press Conference Solzhenitsyn in Paris, April 10, 1975
    - You call the 50-60 million Russian dead, it is - only in the camps, including military or loss?
    - More than 60 million dead - it is only the internal losses of the USSR. No, I do not mean war, internal losses.

    (Solzhenitsyn A. Reading. Articles and Speeches. Paris, 1989. C.180 second pagination)

    In order to for a long time not to talk, and immediately put dot over "i" - take a look at the following table.

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    You can still remember that in the memo for Khrushchev on the number of politically repressed given the figures that are comparable to the above table.

    February 1, 1954

    Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Comrade Khrushchev, NS

    In connection with entering the CPSU signals from a number of parties about the wrongfully convicted for crimes in recent years by the Board of the OGPU, triples NKVD special meeting, the Military Collegium, courts and military tribunals and in accordance with your instructions on the need to reconsider the case for persons convicted for counter-revolutionary crimes and is now contained in the camps and prisons, reported: in the period from 1921 to the present time for crimes were convicted 3,777,380 people, including capital punishment - 642,980 people to detention in camps and prisons for a period of 25 years old and under - 2,369,220, into exile and expulsion - 765,180 people.

    Attorney General R.Rudenko
    Minister of Internal Affairs S. Kruglov
    Justice Minister K.Gorshenin


    Another example of "innocent" shot Marshal Tukhachevsky. (this, too, likes to say Western propaganda)

    Telegram Joseph Davis June 28, 1937 for President Roosevelt (after completion of the trial of Tukhachevsky group):
    "While the outside world, thanks to the press, believes that the process - it is a fabrication. But we know that's not true. And maybe, well, that the outside world thinks so."

    Article by Joseph Davis for the newspaper "Sunday Express" in November 1942:

    "Suddenly, I faced this picture, I had to see clearly even when I was in Russia. A large part of the world believed at the time that the well-known processes of traitors and cleaning 1935 - 1938 years are outrageous examples of barbarism, ingratitude and the manifestation of hysteria. However, now it has become clear that they showed remarkable foresight of Stalin and his associates. "

    William Averell Harriman (US Ambassador to the USSR in 1943-1946 years):

    "He (Stalin) in-depth knowledge, a fantastic ability to delve into the details, mental alertness, and amazingly keen understanding of human nature. I found that Stalin was better informed than Roosevelt, more realistic than Churchill, and most effective of the military leaders."

    Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill, the British prime minister in 1940-45 and 1951-55. "Outstanding anti-communist." Speech in the House of Lords on December 21, 1959 on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of Stalin's birth (note - Stalin at this time had already died. And in the Soviet Union led the anti-Stalinist Khrushchev. It was not a political curtsey):

    "It was a great happiness for Russia, that during the hardest tests country was headed - the genius and indomitable leader Stalin. He was the most prominent figure, in our changeable and cruel time of the period in which flowed his life.
    Stalin was a man of extraordinary energy, erudition and indomitable willpower, sharp, hard, ruthless in his conversation, which even I, brought up here in the British parliament, could not oppose anything.
    Stalin, in particular, had a great sense of humor and sarcasm, as well as the ability to accurately perceive and express their thoughts. Articles and Speeches wrote only himself and his works always sounded gigantic power. The force was so great in Stalin that he seemed unique among the leaders of all time.
    Stalin impressed us . Its influence on people was irresistible. When he entered the hall of the Yalta Conference, all of us, as if on cue, stood up and, strangely enough, somehow kept his hands at his sides. He had a deep, devoid of any panic, logically meaningful wisdom.
    He was an unsurpassed master in the difficult moments of finding a way out of the most hopeless situation. In addition, Stalin during the most critical moments, as well as in moments of triumph, was equally reticent and never give in to illusions.
    He was an unusually complex personality. He created and subjugated vast empire. Stalin was the greatest, unmatched in the world. It took Russia to the plow and left it with atomic weapons.

    (*)No! Whatever is said about him, in history people such people are not forgotten."

    Do not read the Western media. They are bad for the brain.

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    its not a biigest crime. Kobo turned 140(?) million into save much like Ivan III or Ivan the man eater /rapper . and i am not talking about GULAG here , just look what live had peasants or working people ...
     
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    quote of the day....
    just choose one


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    The Soviet Union was generally illegal state entities, because was ruled by a party that came to power illegally, by its capture,
    especially one of parties which destroyed a great country RI,
    unfortunately due to illogical internal boundaries of the USSR Kharkov has been in Ukraine now
     
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    He lives inside every US Democrat too.
     
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    Svetlana Alexievich is not a Democrat , she is brutally sovok
     
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    Charming, but still:
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