Same sex couples will produce biological children together

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  1. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    If homosexuality was caused by a recessive gene, we would not be seeing this pattern:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/men-older-brothers-gay_n_3873772.html

    Human sexuality is very complex, and all the experts agree it would never be caused by a single gene. It is likely a combination of genetics and environment. There are identical twins that have different orientations.

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    It is not any more unnatural than oral sex is. You do lots of things that are unnatural.

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    Oregon cannot overrule the Constitution. The majority is capable of changing the Constitution. Why don't they?
     
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    1. Women are not afflicted by a biological deviancy in regards to voting.

    2. Love is not a biological deviancy.
     
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    Because of the X (female) and Y (male) chromosomes that determine sex.

    Females are XX; they have an X chromosome from each parent. So an FF combo would only be able to have XX, or female, offspring--normal females do not carry the Y chromosome at all. although some females do carry one. Those people might be able to have a male from an FF combo if they are fertile, but that would be the exception.

    Males are XY.


    Males have both X (female) and Y (male) chromosomes ...so they (MM) should have fewer females than normal, but, you are right, they could have some; the possible combinations are XX, XY, or YY.

    YY is an abnormal combination which can cause some genetic problems as most people have at least one X chromosome, which has more genes on it than the Y one does.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_chromosome


    My point was the production of comparable numbers of both sexes. The imbalance of sexes in India due to abortions of female fetuses right now is a major reason for the sexual slavery and female rapes going on over there--there are not enough adult females to go around.

    You make a good point, though; maybe we don't need that many more humans to burden the planet.

    There are studies going on to see if some forms of homosexuality are genetic. They are not conclusive; further research is being done. A certain location on the Y chromosome needs further study,

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d...tic-basis-of-male-homosexuality/#.VRTVQPzF8YQ

    It is possible that there are only a few possible such variations, and that inheriting two such genes rather than just one could lead to unexpected results. This is just a possibility, but, apparently, in the case of racial intermarriages such unexpected results occasionally occur (the only one/s I know about being variation/s in disease states eg sickle cell anemia). Since the Y chromosomes are relatively bare of genes compared to the X ones, though, imo caution would be warranted, as the effects of a doubling might be magnified. There is a lot of "junk" in the average chromosome that never gets expressed, but who knows what a previously-impossible doubling would do.

    The best thing would be to take it up with a genetic counselor, and a responsible reproductive therapist would, in ,my opinion, require this before any action was taken to actually produce such a child. I am only conjecturing based on my rather scanty knowledge of genetics, since no one else here seemed to be responding to the question.

    ..Oh, I only mentioned tumors because one person I knew did have a tumor near the gland that causes milk production, and this did seem to be one influence on their sexual orientation.



    In my opinion, in certain survival situations homosexuality and lesbianism could be a real lifesaver to a human clan. There are undoubtedly good and sufficient Darwinian reasons for the existence of any such genes that might exist that tilt toward either of these. That does not, however, mean that all gay people, or even any, actually carry such genes. It is still in the investigative stages. (In many cases, imo, early imprinting experiences could easily explain some sexual orientations.)
     
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    I think electricity is a necessity that should be cheap and affordable. We need more coal and nuclear plants which I'm betting liberals are against. Liberals are against electricity and growth because it hurts the planet. Go ride your bike back to your teepee.

    You may not like normal people, but at least we know where to put it.
     
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    Making human monsters is not the same as slavery/racism. Your party was on the side of slavery and racism by the way if you want to bring that crap up in this unrelated conversation.
     
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    I wasn't making a serious argument on the subject of energy. I was criticizing your irrational fear of modernity.
     
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    See the rest of my posts here.
     
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    I understand that, and I was pointing out the irony of the left's desire to bring CO2 emissions to zero which means that all humans must die.

    But on the subject of human life, this is not something that ought be tampered with like a lab experiment. There are some moral reasons that
    certain things should be banned for obvious reasons like cloning and such. This is in that category.
     
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    What are those reasons?
     
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    Moral reasons. Ethical reasons. They are obvious to all who have morals and ethics.
     
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    Cut the vague copout answers and actually say something.
     
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    It says it is pointless to argue morals and ethics with people who have none.
     
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    I can't.
     
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    Well bummer for ya.
     
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    Yes, well if you'd like to clue me in that'd be awesome. Otherwise in the future if you want to tell people to see previous posts you should make sure they weren't removed.
     
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    They were not removed by me, and I'm not much inclined to repeat the process only to have it deleted again for reasons utterly beyond the ken of yours truly; so if you have a complaint, it's properly laid at the doorstep of others.
     
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    At first I imagined finding some way for a man to carry a child. I am DEFINITELY against that idea as it's just .... Yeah, I am just against it,

    However, two lesbian friends I have would/will make amazing parents. One is a trauma surgeon and the other is an ER doctor. Around 30 years old, these brilliant women just went through being a first time home buyer together in Newport Coast, Orange County California for 1.1 million dollars.

    Whle the trauma surgeon is what you would describe as "butch", the ER doctor is an absolutely gorgeous 5 '5 105 lb blonde who loves sun dresses. I tried many times and failed miserably there when we first met for now obvious reasons ..... amazing people/women.

    Long story short, that is DNA I want passed on in my country.

    Not only do these women deserve to have a child born of their blood, but we as a society will also see benefits in allowing the raising of said children.

    Also, it will be interesting as this should put to bed the thought that it is something that can be passed on in any way.
     
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    I'm all for it. Up until the moment evolution decides we don't need a sex drive anymore.
     
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    By that, I assume you mean that your answers are grounded in knee-jerk emotional responses rather than logic, and you know that it falls apart if you bother to use reason.
     
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    So I'm guessing you are against modern medicine? Which is quite literally a tampering with life and it's natural processes.
     
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    No I am not against modern medicine. To assume such a thing says more about your misunderstanding
    of people and inability to accept the idea that they can disagree with you. Human life should not be treated
    like a lab rat.
     
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    Again, I guess you haven't ever received vaccines or antibiotics or undergone any surgical procedures. Because that is quite literally treating your life like a lab rat.
     
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    Are band-aids against my beliefs as well?
     
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    Imagine, if a woman is looking for a sperm donor, and can't decide between two men, now she doesn't have to choose. She can have a baby made from both.
     
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    Actually, all science needs to do now is invent artificial wombs and allow them for public use and we'll be all set for a new era of reproduction.
     

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