Same sex marriage

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Duh not needing it.

    For **** sake Chris
     
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  2. chris155au

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    So you don't want the government's permission to benefit from the government benefits that legal marriage brings?
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    What benefits?
     
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    The legal benefits obviously.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    What legal benefits obviously?
     
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    Tax etc.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    What is the excetera?
     
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    Well then that means that you weren't aware that there were legal benefits to marriage.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    I'm not aware of legal benefits that don't apply to me such as anything having to do with veterans, most of the other benefits were things that we had already set up. Only two or three were something we couldn't get prior to 2015.
     
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    Well alright then. So then why did you ask me "what benefits?" Seems like you're being difficult for no reason. Here's my question rephrased: So you don't want the government's permission to benefit from the government benefits (WHICH APPLY TO YOU) that legal marriage brings?
     
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    because I wanted to know what benefits you were talking about. And apparently it was none.

    it seems like you are frustrated if you don't want to talk to me stop talking to me. But rest assured if you make any kind of generalizing statements, especially regarding benefits that most of which I don't get I'm going to call you on it.
    no For the Love of All that is good in this world, I don't know how you keep screwing this up.

    I don't know why you have to get the government's permission to enter this particular contract it doesn't involve them.

    I have explained this before I'm really getting tired of having to repeat myself.

    These two things aren't in conflict.

    The benefits can still be there even if I don't have to ask for permission.

    Don't ask me again with the f****** alternative is. I'm going to tell you.

    The alternative to having to ask the government for permission is not having to do that. (By that I mean having to ask the government for permission. {By which I mean having to ask the government permission to get married. [Having to ask the government to get permission is the same thing as applying for a license.]})
     
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    I can comprehend why he might think that, but I don't agree with his premise.
     
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    In some states that's not enough. An assertion of marriage is also required in some places, at least last I looked. It's been a while since then so theoretically some changes could have been made.
     
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    Since I don't know him, I wasn't assuming one way or the other. It was just the possibility.

    Hey, Law is a sphere in the player's handbook. Again, I'm not assuming which, if any dirty he's following. ;)
     
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    What's not enough?
     
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    Simply cohabitating.
     
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    What's an "assertion of marriage?"
     
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    Depends upon the laws. Could be as simple as going around and calling each other spouse. If there was evidence of wedding, even though no paperwork was filed, might be enough. Although, as I understand it, most times the state doesn't impose the status until and unless something comes up, such as separation, and one person wants to exert martial rights. The only time I've heard of the possibility of the state considering such an action on its own, not that I am up on most of what happens in other states, is when there was talk of Utah using its common law marriage to be able to charge the husband from Sister Wives with bigamy.
     
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    How is bigamy possible? Doesn't a state know that someone is already married to someone else?
     
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    How does that mean that deities care about paperwork?
     
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    I don't know why you think it was none just because I didn't specify anything. If I didn't specify anything, then clearly it means that I was talking about ALL legal benefits.

    So in your ideal world, what would the procedure for marriage be? Just sign some sort of "contract?"

    Okay, but can the benefits still be there without the government being involved in, as you say, "this particular contract?"
     
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  24. Polydectes

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    most of them don't apply to us.



    that's what it is now except for the justice of the peace crap.


    Without having to ask the government for permission you mean? Sure it happens when a married couple moves here.
     
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    And what would be the contents of such a contract?
     
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