Same sex marriage

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by WAN, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Never said it did.

    Correct. Facts must be accepted by all involved parties, otherwise they cease to be facts and return to being solely arguments. Your assertion here is a fact, actually, since we both accept it as a true. If I wouldn't have accepted it as a true, then it wouldn't be a fact anymore. That's how facts work.

    ARF. RAAA.
     
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    No that's false. One man can procreate with 36 women.

    A man can potentially procreate with a FEMALE gorilla.
     
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    This is an English forum why are you typing out what a dog says?
     
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    I already did.
     
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    So instead of presenting an argument you just bleat and bark?

    Why do you even post?

    Do you think that I'm just going to abandon my argument because you insist that it's a fallacy despite the fact that you continuously make an appeal to nature, an appeal to purity and an appeal to tradition?

    The hypocrisy is palpable here. You are the king of fallacies and it's funny that that's all you can see in any argument presented against you it's almost like a defense mechanism.
     
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    That isn’t an argument, how are they different?
     
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    It isn't so much that you can point out fallacies it's that you understand why their fallacies

    I have accused you of appealing to nature and I can explain why an appeal to nature is fallacy. Something being natural doesn't necessarily make it good or right. It isn't natural to have surgery but if somebody has an inflamed appendix and it gets cut out that was an unnatural process that saved their life.

    So the appeal to nature you are engaging in is suggesting that procreation and principle is somehow necessary for marriage. when you don't even believe that it is because you have nothing against a deferred I'll people who in principal cannot procreate getting married.

    I have also accused you of appeals to purity. This is the no true Scotsman fallacy. when I point out but I pointed out the pub about your argument you moved the goalposts to saying it can only be between one man and one woman thus negating procreation principal. Because one man and one woman can not in principle procreate if one of them is infertile.

    Further one man can procreate with 36 women.

    This is why it's not good to be emotionally attached to your argument. You are trying to prove yourself right so you can win the day. Because you need what you think to be right. I'm not debating with you to prove myself right. I'm not emotionally attached to the argument. I'm just arguing to stop you from proving yourself right.

    This is why religious people mostly lose debates. If you are wrong it means your god is wrong.
     
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    He seems to make animal noises when he's backed into a corner.
     
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    Correct.

    You are confusing stating a truth with basing an argument on that truth, as has been explained.

    No idea what you're saying here.

    Yup.

    I moved no goalposts. YOU moved the goalposts by switching from humans to other species.

    More goalpost shifting on your part. We are talking about a generic man and a generic woman, not specific individuals who happen to be infertile.

    Correct.

    I'm not. It seems like YOU are, though.

    This is you again.

    Motives are irrelevant.

    EVERYBODY is religious about one thing or another, even you.

    Religion need not be about god(s).
     
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    You are stating opinions as though they are truth.

    Conveniently forget how to understand English when I point out your fallacy.

    So dishonest.

    Do you know what it means to move goal posts?


    You are the one in conflict with reality?


    To the point you're trying to make but not to the way you argue. You are just insisting that you are right.

    I don't argue from a point of religion because such a thing is an appeal to tradition.

    Yeah it's about attempts to speak with authority. Gods are about people. People will argue about gods that nobody can see that always seem to side with them.

    Most people in this regard and not worshipping any god but are themselves their own demigod.
     

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