Sanctuary Cities: Guns and Immigrants

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What is your position on sanctuary cities and what is your rough political affiliation?

Poll closed Apr 2, 2019.
  1. I lean left and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for both gun owners and immigrants

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. I lean right and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for both gun owners and immigrants

    8.3%
  3. I lean left and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for immigrants, but not gun owners.

    16.7%
  4. I lean right and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for immigrants, but not gun owners.

    8.3%
  5. I lean left and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for gun owners, but not immigrants.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. I lean right and I support the concept of Sanctuary Cities for gun owners, but not immigrants.

    25.0%
  7. I lean left and I do not support the concept of Sanctuary Cities.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. I lean right and I do not support the concept of Sanctuary Cities.

    41.7%
  1. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

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    difficult to agree or disagree, on one hand, it sucks traveling across state lines when one stae allows 'this' but the next don't and you end up with fines, confiscation, incarceration or any combo there of... this is true of many aspects, gun/ammo, trucking, cargo limits, age restrictions for certain activities, and most of all voting whether it be a local or national election, the rules should be exactly the same everywhere within usa jurisdictions, to name a few. some things should be the exact same all across the usa, standardized in a way... other than that, populated areas require diff rules than rural for general quality of life conditions such as traffic laws...
     
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    miketx Banned

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    And liberals keep crying they don't want to ban guns, but their actions say otherwise.
     
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  3. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about Sheriffs? Per many states' Constitutions, as the most locally and directly elected officials, they are the 'Supreme Law Enforcement Authority' within their jurisdiction, above both state and federal authorities. How do you think 'removal' of Sheriffs that refuse to enforce unpopular laws should be accomplished, and by whom?
     
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    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

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    What state has a Constitution that grants Sheriffs authority above state law enforcement?
     
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    I see where you are getting that info now. An interesting question.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriffs_in_the_United_States#Sheriff_types_by_state

    The particulars of the duties, authorities and jurisdictions of the County Sheriff vary widely from state to state, but generally speaking, Alabama, California (with the possible exception of SF and LA Counties), Arizona, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Washington and West Virginia Constitutions contain language citing the Sheriff as the 'chief law enforcement officer' 'chief executive officer' or 'highest ranking and most powerful uniformed law-enforcement officer' in their county (I probably missed a few).

    For contrast, some examples where Sheriffs are not (or not necessarily) 'chief' or 'highest ranking' authorities include:

    "Most Massachusetts counties currently exist only as geographic regions and have little county government. Most former county functions were assumed by state agencies in the late 1990s – early 2000s

    "Pennsylvania sheriffs legally have all traditional law enforcement powers. But, since the establishment of the Pennsylvania State Police in 1905, in practice most of the 67 counties' sheriff's offices perform traditional court-related functions, transporting prisoners to and from court, etc.

    "The office of sheriff does not exist in Alaska by the State's Constitution. Instead the functions that would be performed by lower-48 sheriffs and their deputies (such as civil process, court security, and prisoner transport) are performed by Alaska State Troopers and Alaska DPS Judicial Services Officers

    "The position of sheriff is established by the Virginia Constitution, with the sheriff and his deputies having both civil and concurrent criminal jurisdiction countywide. Sheriffs terms are for four years and are not term limited. Unlike other states, the Sheriff is not necessarily the chief law enforcement officer; in a city that has a police department, a Chief of Police has that distinction according to statute. However, a sheriff is chief law enforcement officer in any county. In such areas, the Chief of Police is the highest-ranking officer, such as in incorporated towns or cities." (I take this to mean that in Virginia, incorporated Cities are not a part of the County, at least as far as law enforcement jurisdictions are concerned).
     
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