Sanders-Warren ticket beating Trump-Pence, 48%-45%

If you believe polls this is cause for concern. I have a very difficult time believing this many Americans are desirous of the United States becoming Venezuela but the left has owned our schools for decades now and may have successfully indoctrinated enough generations to communist philosophy and America hate to pull this off. Then again this poll may be just as inaccurate as the polls that predicted Hillary's landslide victory. Guess we will have to wait and see. Good news is the poll predicts only a popular vote win and says the election would still go to Trump.


"Sanders and Warren could win the popular vote, but Trump and Pence still have the advantage of the coalition of working-class and blue-collar voters they made in-roads with in swing states: Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, which could produce a similar outcome as 2016, in which Trump/Pence just win the Electoral College and reelection in 2020,” said Zogby."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nders-warren-ticket-beating-trump-pence-48-45

 

In a way it doesn't matter. After Trump serves out his second term it's inevitable that a leftist president will replace him and then the long slide down the socialistic/Marxist rabbit hole will begin anew. Trump is simply a speed bump along the way. It will happen simply because it is much easier to tear down than to preserve and build, and socialism and Marxism IS . . . destruction.

 

Right now polls are as much advertisement as they are a poll. In the Bush/Kerry election most polls had Kerry winning 6 months out.

 

A pretty grim assessment of our future but I myself wonder at times if the slide to socialism isn't inevitable as America becomes spoiled and lazy and a feeling of entitlement takes control of what was once a country that embraced hard work and the rewards that would usher forth.

 

Hillary by a landslide!!!!!

 

It's not just public school indoctrination into Socialism for a few generations, but 1st-generation Latinos are more likely to vote for Socialism. We've had plenty of "brand new" teenaged migrants enter the country since 2008, become citizens, and since turned 18.

I was just reading the difference between Sanders' 2016 support base and this year's Bernie Bros. In 2016, Sanders' base was almost exclusively white non-college educated young voters. This year, he has kept that support, but significantly added young, non-white, non-college educated voters, particularly Hispanics. South Carolina will test whether black, non-college educated voters will go for Bernie or for a traditional Democrat.

Add in Warren's base of largely white college educated voters, and anything is possible there.

https://krdo.com/news/politics/2020...-in-2020-differs-from-bernie-sanders-in-2016/

 

There will be no Sanders/Warren ticket. First, there doesn't seem to be a lot of love between the two. Second, he'll need someone more moderate on the ticket.

 

The youngest generations are rightfully angry that previous administrations sent manufacturing jobs overseas and left them trying to compete in a service economy. Older generations are upset about that too, but opted for a President who promised to bring production jobs back.

When people start voting for Socialism, where the government is supposed to save them, it certainly is foreboding of a country which is about to sink. The government never saved anyone from anything. The more people vote to hand their power over to government, the worse things get.

 

Sanders' base would feel betrayed if he chose a moderate VP. 50% of them won't vote for a moderate if Bernie is not the nominee.

 

Yes, it is inevitable in my opinion. I think that's why the Left so very eagerly took over the nation's educational systems and media outlets so that it would become inevitable by indoctrinating people from cradle to grave. The biggest question is why did the Right -- knowing the power of indoctrination through propaganda -- simply hand both the educational systems and media outlets over to the Left? I mean it's a done deal now, but I will always wonder why it was done.

 

Zogby polls are not worth the time it takes to read them.

 

There wasn't any love between Barack and Hillary, and yet he made her his S.O.S. Politics and strange bedfellows, don't you know?

 

The young want new smartphones all the time and if someone promise's it will be free, well they are slaves for life

 

What makes you think the DNC will ALLOW him to run this time? The leftist in Washington are more afraid of him then they are of Trump!

 

That's a fair point and makes me wonder why Zogby paired these two protagonists.

 

Well then, maybe in true McCain fashion, to pander to the base, he could pick AOC. That would make conservatives' heads explode.

 

That's a good point and if the DNC prevails it will be Bloomberg against Trump. It is interesting though or should I say frightening that the ticket Zogby polled on does so well.

 

Yes, but they are rapidly running out of options. Today Biden just went Full Senile by declaring himself a candidate for the U.S. Senate. The DNC could still stop Sanders in his track by telling their politically loyal Mainstream Media to go Wide Full Open in support of either Buttigieg or Warren, but since both of them are just about out of money at this point the DNC needs to make a final decision in that regard and send the compliant MSM their group marching orders . . . now.

 

I think that Warren would be wasted as VP in both the campaign and the administration. She should be either Treasury Secretary or Senate Majority Leader IMO.

 

Democrats are turning on her and she may soon be a footnote in history.

 

While there are a number of pairing that would do that I suspect that Bernie would be better off paired with Stacy Abrams instead.

 

Has Bernie won the popular vote in any state yet? He got about 40% of Nevada. Why not more than 50%?

 

I read that 25% of Bernie's supporters have Warren as their 2nd choice if Bernie didn't win. Of course, it's pretty obvious that Warren isn't going to win the "progressive" vote as long as Bernie's there. Makes sense that Bernie would choose her.

 

The political Left from pundits to journalists are acting as if it is now a done deal but mathematically Bernie has got a long way to go. The biggest issue is that Warren and Buttigieg are running out of money and most leftists don't want Bloomberg -- even if he is their best chance of winning since he is Trump-lite.

 

Whoever is in the lead after Super Tuesday will be the presumptive nominee, even without 50% of the delegates. It is a nice break in the action to watch CNN/MSNBC melting down over Bernie instead of Trump every day. If Bernie is a clear frontrunner after Super Tuesday, will media still attack him or will they "spin"? I'd bet on spin.