Sandy Hook Commission Calls For Government Crackdown On Homeschools

You could be talking about the Trachtenberg system. I read about it years ago, started into it but got sidetracked and never went back. Still rather fascinating, both the 'how to' and what led to its development.

 

And who would you suggest?

 

Children in public schools are being physically and sexually abused. As for receiving a reasonable education, non-performing union schools have a horrendous dropout rate and graduate people who are functionally illiterate. Unfortunately, public schools have a primary function of serving the unions and the teachers. We should have schools that serve the students and the parents and not the unions and the teachers.

Even if your children go to public school it is essential you homeschool them at least as a supplement. My son was taught the Holocaust never happened and that communism is the only compassionate system. He was taught the Amazon rain forest would be gone by the year 2000.

"EW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A public school teacher in Queens has been reinstated after being removed last year for allegedly physically and verbally abusing his first grade students."
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09...f-teacher-accused-of-harassing-first-graders/

"The Department of Education said Parlini had been previously disciplined for claims of verbal abuse and corporal punishment, but would not provide specifics, the Daily News reported.
Efforts to reach Parlini for comment, both through him and his union, regarding the allegations were not successful, CBS 2 reported."

Why should they comment? They're in charge. Disciplined for verbal abuse and corporal punishment, fired to physically abusing children, and back teaching in the union controlled school.

 

And so how do home schooled students perform against private school children?

 

Just looked that up and no, completely different and The Trachtenberg System does not include subtraction. No carrying in the system I was talking about. Very simple rules for addition and subtraction but if I remember correctly you needed to memorize multiplication of to 25. I don't remember if it included anything for division.

 

toss 'em back with mommy and daddy. They can fast track to citizenship when they turn 18 and keep dual citizenship.

 

In essence, people who impugn home schoolers are placing more faith in the "wisdom" of DC's elitist, nanny statist bureaucrats than We The People.... who, with their liberty, succeeded in building the most powerful, prosperous nation on earth long before central planners (and unions) took over the education system.

I'm reminded of Suzanna Hupp's almost perfect quote (see my addendum in red), and - as it is generally the same controlling, condescending ideologues involved - think it applies here, as well....

 

Don't know those studies compared public/homeschooled. Private students outperform public students though in other studies.

Unlike public schools which almost never get shut down and teachers are rarely fired for incompetence, private schools don't last very long if they don't perform. Here in Milwaukee once in a while we hear about a crappy private school that was abusing the voucher program. The kids and the voucher funding are pulled and they are put on a "naughty naughty" school list. Compare that to the actual public school system which has an atrocious performance record and they still get money shoveled at them and some people argue they should get more than the $12,000 they already spend per pupil which is the fourth highest in the nation.

 

Some Christians advocate public school, and others advocate homeschools. Christians advocate any and all kinds of education.

 

Georgia has no teacher unions, yet its students rank near the bottom on national tests. And we have tons of dropouts. So, when you can't blame unions, who or what do you blame?

I totally agree - I've told people for years that our kids were homeschooled; we just sent them out during the week for professional instruction, then finished at home. Also, if I found a school teaching what you claim, you'd better believe I'd have been in somebody's face in a NY minute.

 

Oh, well. No need for a special effort, but if you do run across it, just stick it in the middle of a thread where we're both on. Thanks.

 

Taxcutter says:
That's not so difficult. The kid can stay. Mommy & Daddy (if illegal) gotta go home.

 

Have you ever considered that if public schools were run like private schools especially or even charter schools, they'd produce equal or better results? (yes, I know charter schools are technically public schools)

 

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/09/24/did-bill-gates-admit-the-real-purpose-of-common-core/
Common core was pushed by Microsoft lobbyist

 

In public union controled public schools 100% are doing poorly. If it appears they are doing well it is because of lowered standards.

 

Taxcutter says:
Parents.

 

That's true, but private schooling is the first choice. Home schooling would be a second choice.

 

This has nothing to do with Sandy Hook and concerns over mental illness gone unchecked by our all-so-intrusive government. It has to do with results and moral standards. Liberal governments have established a long-standing position that no one will succeed more than another. The playing field must be balanced. These liberal governments also fear what parents are teaching their kids regarding morals. A great number of home schoolers are Christians and parents having the nerve to indoctrinate their own kids with religious values while depriving them of progressive values.

Sandy Hook is just an opportunity for these power-grabbers to do what they've wanted to for a long time; tear down the home schooling system and force kids back into the public school system.

 

Of course they would........because they wouldn't be run like they are now which is to say bloated bureaucracies controlled by unions who only care about their jobs. I spent my first two years in a private high school which had 3 secretaries. When I transferred to public high school I found they had 10 secretaries for the same number of 2,000 students. The public school also had a bazillion assistant principals for some reason.

We have a couple of examples of successful charter schools in this city. The teachers union has very little input in how they are run and they use techniques borrowed from more successful schools elsewhere. If I recall they also utilize more online resources which I am a huge proponent of. As I have said before I have yet to find anything as useful and frankly as engaging as Khanacademy. I should be paid for PR work for them.......

Some kids are are simply better learning independently and other kids learn better in the classroom. I would like to see those kids separated early on, assuming this can be tested somehow, so that they learn in the environments that they thrive in. The kids that excel with the online resources and computer applications would learn at home in "virtual schools" and the other kids can stay in the classroom.

I don't blame everything on teachers though. In fact most of the blame lies squarely on the parents of the shoulders. I would tie any benefits that they receive (in Milwaukee that is pretty much everyone at this point) to whether their kids show up to school and maintain at least a 2.0 GPA.

 

It is not all home schooled kids, just home schooled kids with menial illnesses and/or disorders. A child in a public schhol or in most private schools will have some information about the mental disorder of that child, or at least, have access to that information. Not the same thing with a child who has a mental illness and is home schooled.

One of the great failures of the Sandy Hook massacre is the fact that the child slopped through the cracks of the halth care system when he was young. the parents eventually chose home school because neither the public school or any provate school wanted to take the risk of that child. Furthermore, the parents did the best they could raising that child, but when that child turned 18, it was impossible for the parents to control that child.

You cannot make any determination of balue of a parent. Thus when I say it is more expensive to send a child to private school than to be home schooled, I am talking about verifiable costs that can be measured. And yes, it is more expensive to send a child to private school than to be home schooled because the parents will still be doing the same work regardless. Thus only the relevant, verificable costs I am using in making that comparison.

 

You are making a logical fallacy here.

This is the Texas Accountability System though the TEA. the schools are ranked accourding to performance ranging from exemplary to poor performing. Most Texas High schools pass the grade, which means that more than 80$ of the students are graduating with the basic skills they need.

 

So, Adam Lanza's killing was because he was home schooled and public school would have discovered his problem. Of course, his family was familiar with his problem and sent him to counseling. For better or worse, he was put on meds.

Then we have Harris and Klebold, the Columbine killers, who attended public schools. The public schools saw the signs of mental illness and sent them for counselling and treatment...in a pig's eye.

Perhaps it would be safer to have all children home schooled?

 

Oh really. The Number 1 secondary school in America is not a private school, it is not home schooled, it is a public school. Actually, it is a Magnet school called Dallas School for the Talented and Gifted.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

 

You are dealing with two separate issues.

For Adam Lanza, his mental illness was a direct contributor to the massacre. At the same time, parents who knew of his mental illness did not take the proper precautions. The mother, for instance, was just as musch of an enabler as she was a bictim because she allowed a mentally ill person to have relatively easy access to firearms.

As for the Columbine situation, the parents were pretty much tone deaf on what their kids were doing and what they were involved in.

 

I guess that settles it. All the poor blacks going to public schools are in great schools.