Satan was the first salesman

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    In theology, Satan is considered the first liar. Who was the first known human liar? No one can say, but I suspect it was the first person trying to sell something. Salesmen have been lying ever since.

    NOTE: Institutional lying is the offspring of individual liars. The evil done by institutional liars is relatively new; my guess is that it began three or four centuries ago. As institutions like governments and corporations grew more powerful the evil they do grew in leaps and bounds. Governments murdering tens of millions of their own citizens in the last century is the most obvious example of institutional liars plying the salesman’s trade.

    Lying in order to sell something has been so commonplace for so long it is understood by everybody with an ounce of brains that the seller is lying. That certain knowledge must always be applied whenever the liars in Washington talk about anything; doubly so when the talk involves money.

    Deficit reduction, taxes, the budget, foreign debt, the debt ceiling, etc., are one topic in the minds of liars selling the public a bill of goods. It’s all a sales pitch so long as the XVI Amendment remains. Since repealing the XVI Amendment is not even discussed in Washington, read everything you can find as well as listen to every word the government’s talking heads say on TV and you will see that it all comes down to this excerpt from a Wall Street Journal article:


    “. . . negotiators likely would have to agree to spending cuts for domestic programs, defense and entitlement programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, as well as boost tax revenues. Most negotiators agree that spending reductions would outweigh any new revenues by a sizable margin, though significant reductions in tax breaks and deductions for businesses also likely would be part of the mix.”

    Democrats have been betraying this country’s military to socialism/communism since the Vietnam War era; so cutting defense spending is a mainstay in socialist thinking. No surprises there.

    Cutting entitlement programs always means cutting Medicare and Medicaid ——and cutting Social Security which is funded by labor performed.

    Cutting entitlement programs never means driving unnecessary government parasites away from the public trough, nor does it ever include education industry parasites. The federal government has no constitutional authority to fund or be involved in education; so that should be the first entitlement program to be eliminated. In all of the talk about cutting Medicare and Medicaid have you heard anybody mention eliminating federal funding going to higher education? or shutting down the Department of Education?

    Boosting revenues always means a tax increase no matter how the liars say it. The phrase “Boosting revenues” makes a tax increase sound like the public is getting prime ribs instead of baloney.

    The next one encompasses the biggest lies of all “. . . reductions in tax breaks and deductions . . .”.

    I’ll wager that you never heard about a Republican telling Hussein “Okay, Your Highness. Conservatives will eliminate the tax deduction for corporate jets if you and yours eliminate tax deductions donors get when they give to political organizations.” That would be a fair exchange because every tax deduction lands on the backs of working people anyway. Most Americans do not want to pay for Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, ACORN, or to any liberal political cause, any more than they want to pay for corporate jets.

    And I’ll also wager that nobody ever compared the total dollar amount in corporate jet tax deductions to the total dollar amount in tax deductions going to all of those crap liberal causes. Adding insult to injury, the Left’s political causes receive government funding to boot.
    And how about Republicans defining the difference between voluntary private charities and forced government “charities”! Charities should be defined by who they help. For instance, donations to medical charities, organizations helping veterans, aid to the homeless, and so on would qualify as legitimate deductions. The minute a “charity” uses its resources for anything other than actually helping Americans who need help it loses its tax exempt status.

    Let’s add this one, too. Only those charities that spend their money in the United States on Americans would get the deduction tax break. If hot shots like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Oprah Winfrey want to fund charities in foreign countries let them do it out of their own pockets instead of passing their “generosity” along to American taxpayers in the form of the tax deductions they take.

    Taxpayer dollars going to the United Nations every year deserves special attention by Republicans, yet I’ve not heard one Republican “negotiator” mention the money that is thrown into that bottomless pit every year.

    Democrats will never cut funding to the UN, but if Republicans are serious about reducing government spending they should stop all funding other than America’s share of the utilities bill for UN headquarters in Manhattan.

    Finally, before the economy went to hell the late Senator Jesse Helms (1921 - 2008 ) blocked dues to the UN. The House, now in the hands of Republicans, controls the public purse; so why are tens of billions going to the UN and its agencies at the same time the liars are selling austerity to the American people?

    I suggest taking the money the UN and its agencies get every year and give it to Social Security recipients who at least earned it. Right now, the UN’s approximately 55,000 employees worldwide, along with thousands of hidden beneficiaries, get more benefit from billions of American tax dollars than do the people who pay those taxes. I will put more trust in Republicans when they insist on a little austerity for foreign parasites.

    Here’s the link to the article covering some of the lies coming from the federal sales force these days:


    July 8. 2011
    Sights Set on Grand Debt Deal
    Obama, Congressional Leaders Eye Sweeping Bargain to Cut Deficit by $4 Trillion
    By CAROL E. LEE, JANET HOOK and NAFTALI BENDAVID

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303365804576431664248244194.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3
     
  2. dixiehunter

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    Satan was the first salesman................... And his name is Obama.​
     
  3. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To dixiehunter: I’m hearing the cries of poor, condemned, souls coming from deep below the White House on this one:

    Obama to Meet With Gates, Buffet on Philanthropy
    Monday, July 18, 2011 07:24 AM

    President Barack Obama will meet with Berkshire Hathaway Inc.’s Warren Buffett and Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates at the White House today to discuss how private philanthropy can be channeled toward national challenges.

    Gates will be joined by his wife, Melinda, as they update the president on their efforts to persuade rich Americans to give a majority of their wealth to charity, according to the White House.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/BNSTAFF-BNTEAMS-BUSINESS-CNG/2011/07/18/id/403923

    Whenever the Devil gets together with do-gooders my cynicism shouts "The highway to hell is paved with good intentions." It’s inconceivable that any good for this country will come out of billionaires meeting with Satan; at least not along the lines I suggested in the OP:

    “Let’s add this one, too. Only those charities that spend their money in the United States on Americans would get the deduction tax break. If hot shots like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Oprah Winfrey want to fund charities in foreign countries let them do it out of their own pockets instead of passing their “generosity” along to American taxpayers in the form of the tax deductions they take.”
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Very nice, detailed, meaningless right-wing rant.
     
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    To tomteapack: Not so meaningless in light of the lies Hussein is telling to sell another stimulus package.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Totally meaningless for many reasons, first - it has nothing to do with the topic of Satan, as a salesman.
    Second, by using the name Hussein you show your ignorance, rudeness, bigotry, hatred and foolishness.
    Thirdly, it is all boiler plate, RUSH Limbaugh, twists, lies, half truths and total falsehood
    so, like I said, totally meaningless, AND a rant!
     

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