Saudi Arabia executes 37 people, crucifying one, for terror-related crimes

So Muhammad is saying he himself was the bad guy?

 

Bravo Saudi Arabia


It is their business, not ours!

 

I said or implied nothing of the sore.
In fact many times I have stressed the difference between Muslims and Islam.
Apparently you think they are the same.

 

He does admit to being a terrorist and encourages his men to do so.

 

Two options here
You are either lying, or mistaken.
when confronted I make my stand perfectly clear.

 

So you think muslims can follow Islam and not its violent precepts and still be proper muslims?

 

But does he say that he himself attacked everyone he attacked without any justification at all?

 

"good Muslims" are very evil people.

If you follow the teachings of Islam, you will be a murderous thug.

Many Muslims don't.
Many Muslims are unaware of their own religion, knowing only what their clerics and peers tell them.

 

He was thrown out of Mecca.
The Jews of Yathrub took him in.
From there he started raiding Meccan caravans.
He built up an army and took Mecca.
Then he turned on the Jews and Christians.

 

Why was he thrown out of Mecca?

Why did he start raiding the Meccan Caravans?

 

When the Apostle heard about Abu Sufyan coming from Syria, he summoned the Muslims and said, “This is the Quraish caravan containing their property. Go out to attack it, perhaps Allah will give it as a prey.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 42

Abu Sufyan was another caravan company,
Muhammed worked for Kadajjya running caravans, so he knew the game inside and out.

After he captured Mecca Sufyan converted to save his head.

 

The meccans prayed to the rock gods.
He spoke to spirits in a cave, started his own religion.

Pissed off the locals by defiling their gods.
His uncle, Abu Talib, ( that may be wrong name) was his protector.
When he died, the jig was up.
BTW, the Muslims drew first blood.
There are lots of verses regarding this.

They spoke with each other what to do, finally ran him out of town.

 

How did he defile their gods?

 

He tried to make all the gods into one, which he did later on.
offhand I can't think of any specific instances, however "defiled their gods"
is a sentence they used in a verse.
The Kab'ba had rocks in it representing their gods.
Ashia said two people were caught having sex in there, and allah turned them into rocks.

 

Mecca is in the control of the Qusayy family, who took it from the Kuzza, who took it from the Jurium, ( Bad spelling)
It was uninhabited until the 4th century.
No, Abraham did not build the Kab'ba.
Qusayy bought the Kabb'a for "A skinful of wine and a lute. ( Music and booze for Islam's holiest site.)
Muhammed was an orphan, adopted into the Qusayy family.
He was not eligible to inherit the Kab'ba. A place where the people prayed and brought gifts.
It was for a blood relative, male, over 40.

He started his own religion.

 

So he did have a reason for starting all the troubles, he didn't just suddenly decide to start killing people for no reason whatsoever.

 

He was thrown out of the only home he knew and was pissed.
Broke, refugee.
He started robbing the Meccans.
His first two raids didn't go well, but he got better.

 

So he was a wronged person, not just a murderous psychopath?

 

Apparently you are not following this.
He pissed off the Meccans.
There was infighting.
The Muslims committed the first murder.

He is also a little different,
His first wife Khaddja is dead.
I don't recall if anything is said about her money.
He remarries 2 women One older one with which has no real relationship,
and one 6 year old.
His uncle and protector is dead.

 

Iran executes more people than any other country except China. China, of course, has a much larger population - so you are more likely to be executed in Iran, proportionaly, than in any other
country. According to Wikipedia, Iran admitted to 507 executions in 2017. Many human rights groups believe the actual figure is higher. Iran is also one of the very few countries in the World that
still executes minors. According to Wikipedia, Iran had 137 juveniles awaiting execution in May, 2009.

A notable example of the execution of a minor was the case of Atefeh Sahaaleh, born in the city of Neka in 1988. When she was four or five years-old, her mother died, and her father - an
unemployed drug addict - was unable to take care of her. She was sent to live with her elderly grandparents, who, because of their age, were unable to always adequately supervise her. She
learned to like walking through town on her own - a habit that made her conspicuous, and brought her to the attention of the morals police. When she was 13, she was arrested for the first time
by the morals police. The exact nature of her "crime" is uncertain, but it is believed she was caught sitting in a car talking to a boy. She was tried and as a punishment she was publicly flogged
(100 lashes), and sent to Behshahr Prison for a short sentence.

After her release, Atefeh bitterly complained to other girls she knew that she had been beaten and raped by her jailers. She eventually became involved with a 51-year-old taxi driver named
Ali Darabi. Atefeh may have hoped that the fact that Darabi was a former Revolutionary Guard would protect her from the morals police. Unknown persons reported the relationship to the
police and Atefeh and Darabi were both arrested.

There was no transcript of her trial, and she was given no legal representation. Since this was a second offense, the 16-year-old girl was sentenced to death for "acts incompatible with
chastity." There were no gallows in Neka, so Atefeh was taken to the public square and a noose was attached to a construction crane. Judge Haji Rezai himself placed the noose around
Atefeh's neck. She was then hoisted into the air by the crane to slowly strangle to death. The date of her execution was August 15, 2004. Her body was left on public display for an hour.

As for Ali Darabi, he was given 95 lashes and released. In the West, Darabi at age 51 would be considered as a sexual predator and 16 year-old Atefeh would be considered a victim. When
Western humanitarian groups learned of the execution and complained, the Iranians tried to claim that Atefeh was 22, not 16. Her family, however, showed her birth certificate and death
certificate to Western journalists, proving she was indeed just 16 when hanged.

 

Ishaq 119

Your nephew has cursed our gods insulted our religion, insulted us by trying to steal our religion,
mocked our way of life, and accused our forfathers of error...…
They warned everyone they met that Muhammed was a possessed socerror, stiring up divisions in the family.

Some of these used to be available online, but apparently they were pulled off.
I have to go into my books and type them out, and I am a lousy typist.

 

In still living memory what many people still regard as the most advanced nation on Earth executed 13 millions who had committed no known crimes whatsoever.

Man is a wolf to man. An old saying and a scurrilous insult to wolves

 

You're referring to 'accepting' homosexualiity which is quite different from the killing of homosexuals, as happens in Muslim countries. It is also, as you may have read, a generational thing.

 

So you don't see Muhammad as being justified in being pissed in any way by this treatment?. You think he really was a possessed sorcerer or what?

 

Of course not.
I just posted one verse, there are lots of them.
Don't make your conclusion off one.