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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    Watch this video and tell me if you can distinguish whether he has a gun or not. Are you not fit to be a cop?

     
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    Evidence?
     
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    Saying it happens all the time is not the same as proving that it happens all the time. Like I said, TYT is not on my top 10 most trusted news sources.
     
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    TYT is far, far more credible than you. Therefore I feel good citing them here.
     
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    And FOX News is far far more credible than you. Also, I noticed that you didn't respond to my post with the video. Why is that?
     
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    Same reason you didn't respond, to this:

     
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    I didn't respond to it because it was directed to someone else. I tend to mostly respond to stand alone posts or posts directed towards me. My post concerning the video was directed and quoted you. So no. The reason you failed to respond to my post is not the same reason why I didn't respond to yours. Plus, I already addressed why the police put him in cuffs.

    My response was I don't know, I wasn't there and there isn't any video of the incident to my knowledge. It could be the man acted suspiciously or erratic or it may be procedure when dealing with this type of crime. Now, are you going to address the video I posted?
     
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    No, not true. Go check your post's archive.

    Anyway, please respond to it now. Please let me know how 'A teller' is responsible for the Peculiar Institution we saw unfold once police showed up.
     
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    What's not true?

    Wasn't he the one who called the police? Like I said, I don't know what went down when the police contacted him. I can only give you possible reasons as to why it ended up him in cuffs. Are you going to address the video I posted?
     
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    He didn't call the police on, himself, for trying to cash his legitimate paycheck. Nice try.


    It was 'A teller' who called the police on him.

    So please address police racism, or Black outrage, which caused him to be handcuffed detained and put in a police car? Why do you feel that those police actions had to occur? Why did it take a phone call from his boss, to say that the paycheck was real, before the police released him to go about his day?
     
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    I didn't said that.

    Exactly.

    Like I said, I don't know, I wasn't there and there isn't any video of the incident to my knowledge. I gave two possible reasons why he ended up in cuffs. One was the guy was apprehensive, which is a possibility as even the video you posted said that his familiy and friends joked about how he can get a little touchy if he thinks he's targeted because of his race.

    Another possible reason I gave was that it was merely procedure when dealing with this type of crime.

    Overly cautious, doing their job thoroughly, one of the cops was a rookie and the senior cop was teaching him on how to deal with these types of crimes? I can think of several reasons that don't involve the cops being racist.

    So, when are you going to address this video that I posted earlier?

     
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    I'm sticking with the apparent elements of traditional, police racism, since I cannot find this anywhere in America as standard police procedure for handling peaceful citizens entering banks to Cash paychecks. As verified by the fact that he was released after a mere phone call, from his boss.
     
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    My understanding of the incident was he left and the police arrived at his house. So at the time, he wasn't trying to cash in a check. I may be wrong though. Again, we don't know what happened. We don't know if he was peaceful, we don't know what is the procedure in dealing with fruadulant check cases that department has. Also, I see you still didn't respond to the video I posted. Why?
     
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    I thought I did answered honestly. I responded by saying the article doesn't really make a clear case that (1) white supremacists are prevalent in law enforcement and (2) that most white cops are racist. It could be (and most likely the case) that white supremacists in law enforcement has been a rare thing since the end of the civil rights movement but due to technology and instant information, the cases of finding the white supremacists out have been exaggerated. For instance, you may hear one or two stories a month of US citizens contracting Ebola and some people would take that to mean that we're having an epidemic.

    Now, are you going to address the video or are you too cowardly to respond to it? I've responded, to the best of my ability and integrity, to all of your objections that were directed to me. The least you can do is return the favor.

    EDIT: How do you know that he was peaceful with the police when they arrived?
     
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    Thanks. For once again, refusing to honestly address what that link means in real time, for Black citizens suspected of crime.
     
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    What that means in real time for blacks? Simply, blacks don't have to worry much about racist cops. They're pretty much nonexistent. I've worked with cops and none of them are racist. This goes for everybody, not just blacks, but if you're suspected of a crime, comply and be polite. The more honest and polite you are, the less likely you'll be a suspect in the first place or have trouble with law enforcement.

    Now, when are you going to address the video?
     
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    ROFL
     
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    "...The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

    • The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
    • Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.

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      Just like San Fran. Just like NYC thanks to Stop'N'Frisk racism.
     
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    I would classify that those three cops are merely the ones who were, featured, as they are not all the cops who created and pushed that horrid culture against Black citizens. Plus you managed to snake around, avoiding, addressing the hundreds of cases those 3 cops perfected their Racism upon. You steered clear of addressing those Black victims.
     
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    You're talking about a department of only about 40 sworn personnel. The article (to my knowledge) does not state how many of the officer violated civil rights. It could be just a few cops who are doing most of the damage. That's usually the case in any scenario. 20% of X group does 80% of the wrong doing.
     
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    Citation needed.

    How so? You do realize that there are roughly 900,000 law enforcement personnel in this country making millions of interactions with the public every year, right? That means, even if you can cite "hundreds" of cases of clear racism among law enforcement, that means at best 1% of all cops are being racist and even less than that are those racist cops treating blacks with prejudice.


    Still waiting for you to respond to this video. I guess you're cowardly and decietful to address it.

     
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