Scenarios of the Biblical Flood, mass extinctions, and fate of Atlantis

Uncommon Knowledge, by Al McDowell (available on Kindle)

Noting that the asteroid impact associated with the extinction of dinosaurs does not quite correspond to the timing of their demise, evidence of other possible causes is presented. One particular anomaly is a clue that something more is involved in these calamities: Alaska and Siberia escaped the major extinctions of wooly mammoths, etc. Marine extinctions were extensive while fresh-water denizens survived. Various patterns in the timing of extinctions and major disruptions are becoming apparent.

Every 30,000 years our solar system passes through the galactic plane. The galactic wind can push comets into our domain, even more so if a galactic core outburst occurs. Every 62,000 years the alleged planet Nibiru in one of its 3600-year visits comes unusually close to earth, exerting a tidal force more than 300 times greater than that of our moon. The bulge of water could easily submerge the top of Mt. Ararat. Undersea volcanoes heat up the ocean waters, disrupt thermoclines such as the gulf stream, increase evaporation, and cause more precipitation at the poles, rapidly bringing on an ice age. There are also patterns of various shorter cycles.

Atlantis, if located in the vicinity of the Azores, was vulnerable because of a number of tectonic plates meeting at that location.

 

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I think Elvis and Batboy are the ones behind it.

 

It has been speculated, that our moon is actually the mother ship of a lost civilization of ancient aliens that live in a different spacial frame in which time is dialated and one year for them is 100 million for us. Once a year they throw a huge party and because they live deep inside the ship and are 80 ft. tall, the dancing changes the orbit of the moon and thus the tides here on earth. The last Party was a big one due to the wedding of princess Dghartha and took place in February....causing the extinction of dinosaurs. Unfortunately this years they also have the anniversary event for queen Ztbyata and king Wkloasi...which is scheduled for November.

We should all kiss our children and f@ck our wives......while we can.

 

I sort of just skimmed, but then I read "Nibiru" and felt justified in not really earnestly reading it, because that's the kind of crazy that you point and laugh at rather than debating with. Kind of like flat-earthers.

 

You know how when people say LOL, you really don't know if it's just figurative?....well, I just busted out a big weazy belly laugh, and I think I even snorted a bit. Co-workers stared at me for a few seconds shaking their heads...........seriously, thanks, that's my laugh for the day...

 

I'm here all week

 

Queen Ztbyata and King Wkloasi........stop!.....that is precious.....

 

interesting video...

yeah, there the well known cliche that describes this "there's a sucker born every minute"...want to make some quick cash write a book making unverifiable claims and you sell millions...chariots of the gods, mayan prophesies, crystal skulls etc...recently there was a tv program filmed as it was documentary claiming Megladon was alive and still prowling the seas, a survey of people taken afterward found that something like 70% believed it was true...

 

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My ex girlfriend thought the Megolodone thing was real, even after showing her the producers admission it was a mockumentary.

Key word, ex. lol

 

my daughter a archeologist/historian told me of an archeology/anatomy class incident where the Prof asked the known creationist students to identify the sex of a skeleton...a young female said it was woman because it had a full number of ribs and men had one less, Prof wanted to know where she learned that fact and of course because it was religious instruction...the prof told her it was in fact a man, she disputed it he had to be wrong, the prof said no we know who he is, he don't donated his body to the university..despite that definitive information she still insisted it was woman, her faith was that unshakeable...

how is it your ex and the archeology student can cling to a belief even when it glaringly obvious they're incorrect?...denial so strong it can overrule irrefutable logic/evidence...

 

Pretty much.

Science > Faith

 

There didn't seem to be a similar admission involving the "documentary" about surviving human mermaids, as if sympathy for their plight might aid the case against military sonar beause of harm to dolphins.

I was aware that the interpretation of Sumerian text by Zach S. was suspect, but didn't know that his evidence for Nibiru was so flimsy. McDowell should have been more careful about what he mixed in with his analysis.

The downside of the truth about Nibiru is that the "genuine" Nibiru (more than 1100 years away) can't be used to silence the whacko alarmists who depict Nibiru/Planet X/Wormwood etc.as overdue yesterday.

 

...I am so confused right now.

 

It makes so much sense to understand the "flood" as waters of people raining down everywhere on the Earth as Modern man "flooded" Out-of-Africa 40 thousand years ago:

Christopher Stringer and Peter Andrews proposes that modern humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens 200,000-150,000 years ago only in Africa and then some of them migrated into the rest of the Old World replacing all of the Neanderthals and other late archaic Homo sapiens beginning around 100,000 years ago.

If this interpretation of the fossil record is correct, all people today share a relatively modern African ancestry. All other lines of humans that had descended from Homo erectus presumably became extinct.

From this view, the regional anatomical differences that we see among humans today are recent developments--evolving mostly in the last 40,000 years.

 

Your daughter might appreciate the science that corresponds with idea of reading Noah/Ark?Flood as a metaphor which has many uncanny correspondences in the story to archeological evidence, paleontological theories, and science facts:

1) The correspondence between the science facts and Genesis include the congruency between the 22 links to the ascent of the three racial stocks of Noah's three sons compare with the number of names in the Genesis genealogy against the recent paleontology of the 22 now extinct humans identified .

2) These three racial stocks are reported in Genesis as the stock that produced the Table of Nation enumerated in Genesis.

3) Prior to the flood, the now recognized hybridization with Neanderthals is accounted for in Gen 6:4.

4) The total extinction of all mankind except the modern people living today finds paleontological support as well.

5) That genetic evidence now confirms all people now living had a common ancestor, a man whose Y-chromosome we all carry today, supports a Noah, and coincidentally, dates to @40 thousand years of "days and nights" ago.

6) Another previous genetic discover of what was misnomered as "Mitochondria Eve" who lived 150-200,000 years ago supports Gen 5:31 which tells us that Noah had three sons 100,000 years before the "flood", the three racial stocks of Modern Homo sapiens.

7) These correspondences between the Science facts and Genesis are used to support the view that the Noah tale did happen, and was reported by divine revelation in Genesis. The validation of verses such as those which tell us that "a day is a thousand years to the lord," the genealogy of 22 links to modern man, and that the first man and woman were a species called Adam (Gen 5:2) give scriptural support to holding this view, regardless of the protest from those holding different opinions.

 

A recent scientific report revises the Y-chromosome history, extending it back into the range of mitochondrial DNA. I don't have the magazine with me at this location, but it was either Science News or Discovery. The meaning of 40 days is up for grabs again.

 

Its not up for grabs whether there was a flood, so any point to be made about "40 days' of rain is kinda moot, ya know?

 

Or it could have been a flood on the Euphrates river that last four days in 2900 BC.. and the "ark" was really barges that hauled grain, beer and livestock down river.

 

I have always been a fan of the Black Sea flood as the origins to the story. A charismatic leader realizes the danger, gets his people livestock etc on the move and they survive by resettling. A number of generations later this man has been elevated to an oracle who was given special knowledge by God, the rest sort of writes itself

 

I'm glad you included Atlantis. Believing it existed is about as sensible as believing the bible's extraordinary claims.

 

There is lots of evidence for a massive flood on the Euphrates (150 miles wide, 350 miles long) in April when unseasonable heavy rain combined with spring snow melt from the mountains.. There is even flood sediment.

AKA Shuruppak Flood

 

Shall we list the rivers that have flood plains?

Then list the rivers that flood their valleys every year.

Another list for ones that flood periodically.

As for "a" "massive" flood, what evidence might there be for that?

 

The king's name was Ziusudra.. If I can find the information again.. I will post a link for you.

 

Apparently the Black Sea was a lake, until the rising water level in the Mediterranean overtopped the shallow strait.

Now, this was probably an area with soil, trees, grass, etc. The water could not have been rising very fast in the Med.

So at first you'd get a marshy area, then some flow. As you get the vegetation and soil stripped away, the flow could increase to some extent.

But then, you have a smallish river flowing into a very big basin.

Its been calculated that at the most, the expanding lake shoreline would have moved about a foot a day on the average, depending on the slope.


Now, this all would be noticed by alert stone age people, who would be aggravated no doubt to find that they had to move their houses back, and
the more aggravated if they found salt water was killing all the fish and
making the water unsuitable for drinking.

Of course, the same thing more or less, happened all around the world
where people lived on coastal plains that flooded as the sea level rose.
The Bering Strait was wider than the whole state of Alaska is now; whoever lived on it would have had to move east or west, to get out of the way or the rising water. It would have taken generations of course, for the land to disappear completely.

Trying to make the bible account "true" to the extent of being about a real event is about as reasonable as trying to make the Paul Bunyan story true because there are axes and trees.