Schiff crushes false assertions from GOPer's in letter to colleagues.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Those links are all to the SAME Murdoch owned TABLOID disinformation cartel. Self referencing crap is still just crap with ZERO CREDIBILITY.

    So what if the guy once worked for Congress. That does NOT alter the FACT that your BLOTUS was VIOLATING the Law of the Land on his call to Ukraine.

    That VIOLATION of the LAW has been CORROBORATED by INDEPENDENT documentation.

    The TRAIL of MESSAGES shows a CLEAR INTENT for QPQ which is then EXPOSED by your BLOTUS's OWN WORDS during the call per the redacted transcript!

    The EVIDENCE speaks for itself!
     
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    It links to the Washington Post....the article is literally about the Washington Post article....obviously it's clear now, that reading comp is the issue for you.

    Where was he violating the law? Which law? He worked for Shifty.
     
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    Schiff crushes false assertions from GOPer's in letter to colleagues.

    That settles everything. I view whatever comes out of his mouth or his pen to be a lie. That means the "GOPers" are right.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

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    So why not conduct the investigations out in the open? What does Schiff for Brains have to hide?
     
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    As we all know, when it comes to Shifty, he has the truth to hide.
     
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    The problem with the House Impeachment vote is that what they send to the Senate has to have standing in order for Roberts to preside as judge over an actual trial.

    Example:

    "Daniels concluded that all the plaintiffs lacked standing to sue. He also suggested that if foreign governments were patronizing Trump businesses as a result of his presidency, this wouldn’t amount to a violation of the emoluments clause unless the president encouraged them to do so to receive some benefit from the U.S. government."

    Just making an accusation without evidence would lack standing. Schiff and others won't be able to just compose a phony scenario.
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

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    Repubs have resorted to Kabuki theater for the consumption of The Following.

    “Let us in!” House Republicans staged a protest outside a closed-door deposition, stalling the testimony. Schiff summoned the sergeant-at-arms to disperse them.
    Republicans are hammering Democrats for limiting attendance at the hearings to members of the Intelligence, Judiciary and Foreign Affairs Committees. It is common practice for sensitive congressional investigations to be conducted behind closed doors, at least in their preliminary stages. House Republicans did just that when they controlled the chamber and opened an inquiry into the 2012 attack on the United States embassy in Benghazi, Libya.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
     
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    The latest Gallup Poll shows a 39% job approval rating for Trump. https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx

    Trump's favorite poll, Rasmussen Reports, shows 44% of likely U.S. Voters approve of Trump’s job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_oct23

    That is quite low for the Trump friendly poll.

    What does that mean exactly? It means that roughly 40% of Americans support Trump's cooperation with Russia. Or, Trump's supporters have no idea what is going on and they don't want to know. For example, on PF they have completely ignored the thread that deals specifically with Trump facilitating Russian goals.

    It means roughly 40% of Americans support Trump's request for foreign intervention of our Presidential election, asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political opponent.

    It means roughly 40% of Americans support Trump's extortion of the Ukrainian president, using military aid approved by Congress to compel Zelensky to do his bidding.

    Trump's request for foreign intervention in our election and his use of Congressionally approved military aid as a bribe has been confirmed by White House sources, the transcript of the July 25th call and the testimonies of Trump's own advisors, including his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney. Other witnesses include:

    Former U.S. Special Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson, E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland, Former ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, and Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.

    What is far worse is that Trump Republicans in Congress also approve of Trump's bizarre behavior. As matters stand now, they don't think aiding Putin in his goals, requesting foreign intervention in our elections, and bribery, using Congressionally approved military aid to a nation invaded by Russian forces, is not sufficient to remove Trump from office.

    Trump is going down. That is obvious.

    And he is going to take the Republican Party with him.
     
  9. Lee Atwater

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    But you can't back up your claim with anything resembling fact. That means you are wrong.......unless shown otherwise. So........that settles everything.

    If you can't produce a single example of a Repub, who is a member of the committees conducting the depositions, being prevented from attending then this is yet another example of your factual relativism being 100% wrong.
     
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    Don't jump the gun there little jack. The review (investigation) has just been administrative, exactly like the Mueller Report until today. Only a couple of hours ago the DOJ opened an official criminal investigation which means a Grand Jury will be assembled to hand down indictments. Only difference is the Mueller report wasted over 2 years coming up with nothing criminal while the Barr/Durham investigation became criminal in 6 months. The left is crapping their pants right now and so will you when you see who is charged and with what they'll be charged with. Don't forget that treason is still punishable by death in this country.

    BREAKING NEWS

    POLITICS NEWS[/paste:font]
    Justice Department review into origins of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation
    The review had been administrative, but the probe into the origins of the Russia probe is now a criminal investigation.

    Oct. 24, 2019, 8:53 PM EDT
    By Julia Ainsley and Phil Helsel


    A probe by Attorney General William Barr into the origins of the Russia investigation has turned changed from an administrative review into a criminal investigation, a person familiar with the review confirmed to NBC News.

    The review is being conducted by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham. The New York Times first reported Thursday that the administrative review has turned into a criminal investigation.

     
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    Investigate the investigators?

    How very Stalinist
     
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    We will see who is called into the grand jury, who, if anyone is indicted and then see if anyone is convicted of anything. My guess is that Barr is running around the world pissing up various ropes as a distraction for his buddy Trump. Durham seems like a pretty legit guy who is acting on orders from Barr and my guess is that he will find nothing to prosecute any Americans on. Time will tell.
     
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    The only thing they'll uncover investigating the investigators is that the investigators lacked competence and didn't thoroughly investigate. The now Barr/Durham criminal investigation will produce crimes that will shock America. We will see.

    Get to know this face because you will be seeing it a lot in the upcoming months. This is Justice's Santa Claus.
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    I think Durham will be fine. However I am convinced Barr is just running a dog and pony show to create cover for Trump. Durham is known to be a guy who is careful and methodical and the last investigation he ran did not turn up any indictments after 3 years.
     
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    You really think Trump needs a cover? The left has thrown everything including the kitchen sink at Trump for over 4 years and he's not been affected one iota. Trump is one of the toughest sons of b*tches I've ever seen. As the left is screaming racism, free college, income inequality, collusion, sanctuary cities, free healthcare, homophobe, impeachment Trump is keeping his campaign promises of cutting taxes, bringing home our troops, securing our border and most important Making America Great Again.

    The left has wasted so much time and effort hating Trump that they get nothing done even in their own districts. The wealthy and working class are moving from these asinine districts by the thousands. CA and NY lost population last year and it's not the homeless and welfare recipients that are leaving those piss poor states.

    What is incredibly hard to comprehend is the lack of knowledge the majority of this country has. I swear if it's on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, CNN, MSNBC or any other fake news propaganda spreading media the majority of Americans believe and embrace it as if it was the word of God. Look at the leaks coming from the 1/2 ass Impeachment Inquiry. Anyone can paraphrase any segment of a statement to appear one sided and then everyone is all over it. Just like the first day of the Covington High School kids on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial being accused of racism. Then the next day an entire video was released showing the actual incident. The video showed the school kids were actually victims of racism but because they were wearing red MAGA hats the majority of the country convicted these students with no evidence. The kids were publicly convicted of racism just from the lefts hate for Trump.

    From Jussie Smollett to Covington High to racism to Mueller to Impeachment to now you being convinced Barr is just running a dog and pony show is ridiculous. CNN, The Times and WAPO will do nothing but smear Barr and Durham for the next 6 months. Even when Federal Indictments are handed down the left will find a way to spew that the investigation was spearheaded just to get Trump reelected. The left in this country are nothing but a bunch of whining ignorant idiots trying to blame everyone but themselves for their lot in life.
     
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    That’s a pretty good and well written speech Seal however I disagree with most of it. I do not see Trump as a tough guy at all but rather a loud mouthed sissy. I believe that his associations with sleazy and shady characters and his utter disrespect for the law has caused him all of the grief he is currently involved in and not the evil media or the horrible Democrats.

    I believe that Durham is a fair minded and professional public servant and law enforcement official much like all of the many others that Trump, Hannity and guys like you have been trashing for daring to investigate Trump and the consortium of inept creeps, Russian Mobsters and misfits that Trump has surrounded himself with.

    My guess is that people like Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Strzok and others will be exonerated in the end and Trump will be impeached by the house. The Senate will not even hold hearings and Trump will be trounced in the next election. Of course that is only speculation as to what I think will happen and my opinions as far as Trump and his cohorts, but that’s how I see it.
     
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    You hightly doubt, you believe, you guess...

    Yes, we realize you have all of these subjective nothingburgers as evidence. Anything real?

    I thought not.
     
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    All we do here on this political discussion forum is voice our opinions on the people and events taking place these days. My opinions are as valid as yours. Or the poster, Seal that I was replying to. He gave me a version of his opinions of today’s political happenings and I returned mine. Legally, all of these opinions expressed here including yours are nothingburgers..
     
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    We have corruption within investigatory elements of government just like we have everywhere in government. Is that Stalinist or just human nature?
     
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    Where is the credible evidence supporting the need for an investigation? Remember, I said credible evidence. Not the right wing conspiracy theories Billy the Bagman is basing the investigation on.
    If Trump, who is obviously behind this, wants to launch a witch hunt he should use his own money. Not use the DoJ as a political tool to go after who he perceives his enemies to be.
     
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    You will find out in a fairly short period of time.

    Why? Mueller didn't use his own money.
     
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    He should take in all the sights he can while he can still travel on the taxpayer's dime. That time is coming to an end.
     

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