Schoolgirls were the victims of a Racially motivated attack in NYC...

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by rkhames, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. APACHERAT

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    In all white liberal elitist neighborhoods the juries are usually all white.
     
  2. Injeun

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    The thing of it is, that it's almost never whites assaulting blacks. It's actually almost always blacks assaulting whites. But all you ever hear about is how bad blacks have it, and that whites are racist. And as proof, they show us a cop having to shoot a black criminal, which almost always proves to be a justifiable shooting, having absolutely zip to do with racism. Nevertheless, on cue, the blacks riot as if some great injustice has befallen them. I tell ya, Democrats have this poor mouthing scam down pat. Problem is, from flash point to flash point, fewer and fewer people are falling for it.
     
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    Just like whites are underrepresented when it comes to those who are incarcerated. Whites commit 69/6% of crimes, but only represents 34.4% of those incarcerated. How is that?

    Could have fooled me, all I hear you whine about is black on white crime.

    I don't have a problem with facts, as long as, they are facts and not opinion. Seems like you are the one running from facts.
     
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    There are several reasons to explain, I will be happy to discuss them when you grow a spine and respond to a single thing I have said instead of just constant deflection.

    I am a strong advocate for gay and women's rights and have been a proponent of jailing police officers who have been found guilty of racial injustices. My key view is equality, you and your ilk strive for division and special treatment.

    I have posted sources behind all of my points, you have posted zero. I try not to deal in opinion - I enjoy statistical analysis. You are not even operating on opinion - just lies.
     
  5. notme

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    Rather unnecessary to kill a person who is unarmed.
    And yeah, you can come up a situation when that is what you only can do.
    But on the whole.... seems obvious where this comes from.
    Apparently black lives don't matter that much to cops.
     
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    So predicable.

    Ignore all other facts, and just go with BLM.

    Any chance you work for CNN?
     
  7. notme

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    But I actually can, and have done it.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    You drag in facts that have nothing to do with that unarmed black people are killed far more often than cops. So of course I ignoring your distracting strategy. No comments from you that cops kill black people far more often, though. That is quiet predictable.

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    Nope. They concluded that Louisiana.... strike black potential jurors as others during the last decade. That is consistent with patterns researchers found earlier in Alabama, Louisiana and North Carolina.

    That's 1000's and 1000's of court cases, mate.
    Some melting pot American culture that is.
    And indeed... hence that entire BLM thing.
     
  9. cd8ed

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    So you enter into a topic addressing a racial assault by blacks and you deflect with juror selections?
    Hilarious, you can't make this stuff up...

    And BLM is a fraudulent movement based on lies. A terrorist movement
    "Hands up don't shoot" - lie
    "What do we want, dead pigs, when do we want it, now" - true
     
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    And now your point is that blacks are killed far more than police are killed? Is that your comparison?

    My previous post focused on the issue that deaths for blacks due to police was minute, when comparing the same for whites from police, and the killings of blacks from blacks each year (which is astronomical but is ignored by the liberal media).
     
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    1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to Mac Donald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

    Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

    "Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

    MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

    "The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

    2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

    "If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said Mac Donald in her Hillsdale speech.

    3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

    The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

    In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.


    Mac Donald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

    4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

    5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

    Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what Mac Donald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

    6. Blacks not paying attention in school or dropping out of school are aware that the average man can run 15 MPH. Really fast black men maybe 25 MPH. But are unaware when they flee from the cops, they try to out run a cops bullet that is traveling at 1,200 feet per second. No contest at all, the bullet wins 99.9% of the time.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
     
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    Nope.
    My point is that unarmed black people are killed far more often than an other ethnicity.
    But good troll you got there going.

    So you say well over a 100 black lives don't matter.
    Right.
     
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    Just as "fraudulent" as the entire black jury selection. And no. That is not really the point. The point is the bigger picture of discrimination of black people. A couple of white girls getting into a brawl in a bus because of their skin color is not putting a dent in it.... eventhough you peeps pretend this is all over. Now that is fraudulent.
     
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    So the lives of white children are deemed irrelevant due to their skin color?
    And you have the gall to call anyone else racist.

    Do you believe assaulting white children will improve race relations? Or destroy them? I'll go with the latter.
     
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    Have a source on that, everything I can find disagrees with you.

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    All lives matter, even those little white girls you dismiss so easily.
     
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    Blacks are 13% of the U.S. population and they commit 50% of the serious crimes.
     
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    Black people kill Black people.
     
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    If you post it a couple more times, maybe - just maybe - that certain Progressive will be able view it through his tunnel vision.
     
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    I seem to be gradually wearing him down. Notice that the kneejerk leftist propaganda bullet points are growing shorter? Finest kind!

    What such people do not comprehend is that we are both posting for other people to read and contemplate. He is presenting broadside propaganda produced by established propaganda mills. I am simply delivering known statistics that anyone can find. It's not great that only 13% of the population commit 50% of the serious crimes in this nation; but it IS the reality. Eventually leftists are going to have to start dealing with it rather than continue to pretend that it does not exist.
     
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    And last year it was almost 6,000 killings.

    You would think that corrupt unities like BLM and the Liberal Media just might actually focus on those horrible murders of black Americans that take place repeatedly day after day, but instead they would rather pay more attention in those rare occasions when a white cop just might be involved.

    I guess it's let a brother do whatever a brother wants to do...
     
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    Well, I myself (and others, see above) have posted various statistical facts and information, none of which seems to phase the Left.

    I've always been a strong believer that Liberals have always acted more on their emotion, rather than facts. (Post-election violent protests is a prime example)
     
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    Aye, but then I am posting neither for the Left or the Right, my target is always the Centrist and the true Independent. They can be reached over time. Well, in truth I post primarily for my own satisfaction, but they are usually my target audience. Most of them never post, but a great many of them read the posting battles between Left and Right . . . and they think about things.
     
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    If your mom is white and your dad is black, you are mixed, period.

    Obama has a white mom and a black dad. He is mixed, period.

    Edit: or are you coming up with your own theory that Obamas mom isn't really his mom? So are you a new birther then, as that would make his birth certificate a fraud!
     
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    Race is so much more than skin color.
     
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    First the bus driver was supposed to use the bus radio to alert the police that there was an incident going on. Then refuse to let these attackers off the bus until the authorities arrive. She should not have stopped the bus in the middle of the block, and allowed them to get away. Unless you want to claim such actions would have caused the bus driver to become a target of these well meaning African-American teens.

    Now, let's deal with your other dumb statement. How is this not a notable crime when they media had a field day about female three African-American students at Albany University? There were no reports that any of those women were injured in any way. But there was still media coverage, and protests on campus. Do you realize that you are actually making my point for me? You can see the press covering a supposed white on black attack, but not a black on white attack. You clearly support a double standard in what is reportable. I don't. I do not support selective journalism.
     

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