Scientists say mysterious 'Oumuamua' object could be an alien spacecraft

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  1. Cosmo

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    He always finds himself lost in thought; it's unfamiliar territory.
     
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    Obviously...thinking is not your strong point.
     
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    Handsome!
     
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    Well that's one way to avoid inconvenient facts...put anyone who challenges your assertions on ignore. Sir Robin would be proud...
     
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    Brave cerobin
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh just forget it, ffs! And I don't have the faintest idea who this Sir Robin is . . . nor want to, so don't waste any more or your time telling me!
     
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    Yet another case of being willfully uninformed.

    Even if you're unaware of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I included a link when I first referred to you as Sir Robin and tecoyah has helpfully provided a Youtube link in the post above the one I have quoted. It is of course very possible that you cannot see that post because you have tecoyah on ignore.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a very interesting point as he said I am on ignore but replies to me in other threads....hmmmm
     
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  9. The Don

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    The software here is different to that on other boards and as I understand it, ignore is more comprehensive. On other boards, you can see content from an ignored member if it's quoted by a third party who isn't on ignore. Here it seems that the quoted part is blank too.

    Maybe cerberus is able to infer what you've said from comments from other posters. ;)
     
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  10. Montegriffo

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    I'm counting that as running away again.

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  11. The Don

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    Awwwww, cute. I'm getting hungry now. :p

    As we speak, Mrs Don is tackling 2 mallard and 4 pheasants a neighbour dropped round. Sadly I cannot help because I'm 300 miles away.
     
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    So not watching Monty Python makes me ill-informed? :roflol: I reckon that ridiculous critique speaks volumes. But anyhoo, I never watch vids unless they're accompanied by a synopsis as to their content, and the running time at which the salient point appears in it. And even then only if I'm interested enough in the subject.

    Look I've already acknowledged that the tabloids infantilise the fake nooze, but you seem to have overlooked my point about where they get the info, and that it can only be from one of the 'space agencies'. But it does prompt me to ask a related question, which is Why do you think they do it? Personally I think it's to do with the dumbing down program which is prevalent in the western world.

    Yes, I do have tecoyah on ignore, but I sometimes check what he's waffling about when there isn't much else around, and it whiles away the time - well it is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry? :mrgreen: He either has an agenda, or is as gullible as you. Anyway don't forget my question above, will you.
     
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    No, not watching Monty Python does not make you ill-informed, but failing to follow links provided to you by posters who are trying to explain what they men by a particular comment or failing to ask a poster what they mean will make you ill-informed.

    I've only been posting here for a few months, but this does seem to be your standard approach.

    The thing is, because you never bother to try and go to the primary source, you don't know what was published or by whom, just the tabloids' stories. For example the breathless headlines about asteroids skimming the Earth were based on some pretty dry and unremarkable tables related to near Earth objects.

    Why do academics publish ? It's a core part of their job, why research if you don't publish ?

    Why do academics research ? It's because most of them are passionately interested in their subject.

    You may think that the stories are part of a dumbing down programme but remember you're only reading the "dumbed down" versions in the tabloid press.

     
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    Montreal professor says recent sightings by pilots around Ireland could be vehicles of some kind:

    "Just as Harvard scientists weigh in on that massive thingamajig that zipped past the sun last year — the flat, elongated ‘Oumuamua’ was possibly a probe sent to Earth by “an alien civilization,” they said — British pilots flying home from Montreal have reported other UFOs off the coast of Ireland.

    This time, the unidentified objects were bright lights, heading north, at “Mach 2” speed, they told air-traffic controllers.

    But they might also have been extra-terrestrial vehicles, says Don Donderi, a retired McGill professor who has studied UFOs since 1965.

    It wouldn’t be the first sighting, Donderi said. Some pilots have seen them up close.

    “There are cases going back 50 years of pilots seeing what we call nocturnal lights,” Donderi said. “They provide some evidence that some of what people see in the sky and call UFOs are extra-terrestrial vehicles.”

    Whatever is was, it was enough for the Irish Aviation Authority to open an investigation under the “normal confidential occurrence investigation process.”

    It was also enough for the Twittersphere, if not the stratosphere, to light up.

    The news, including audio of the pilots’ conversation with Irish air traffic control, travelled across the globe, at Mach internet speed, while others turned to mockery.

    “As a skeptic, I think it’s probably nothing stranger than flying leprechauns up to their usual mischief again,” said one commenter.

    It was the same attitude taken by Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a renowned American astrophysicist and author, when asked to comment on the existence of extra-terrestrial UFOs. “Call me when you have a dinner invite from an alien,” he said.

    But Donderi, who was a professor of psychology but now teaches a class called “UFOs: History and Reality,” says some sightings have been unnervingly detailed — and harder to dismiss."

    https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...xtra-terrestrial-vehicles-retired-mcgill-prof


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    Lol, okay, start the mocking..........
     
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    So funny. Love this one too. Always look on the bright side of life:

     
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    My favorite
     
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    Most scientists report tnheir research and findings with modesty and in an adult way; the ones I'm talking about - space scientistsw? report them in a condescending and sensationalised fashion as if talking down to children, whnioch the tabnloids sensatioalise evenm more. I can spot charlatans a mile away even if you can't. I have this inherent ability to know when I'm being fooled.



    I couldn't agree more, and I probably have more admiration and respect for them than you do, but I'm not talking about them.


    See above, where I assert that the tabloids use the already-dumbed down nonsense-news and then exaggerate it ten-fold for tjheir dimwitted readership.
     
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    How do you know what the original research says ? You never even try to find the original papers/ source material to try and find out.

    For example, a couple of months ago you were bent out of shape about reports like this one:



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...-warning-three-asteroids-Earth-Close-Approach

    ....except there is no such warning from NASA. Instead someone has gone to the NASA database of near earth objects and looked at the upcoming close approaches

    https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/

    This is what NASA has to say about one of those asteroids:

    https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2018 VT4

    Dry as a bone and not in the least condescending or sensationalised. All of the condescension and sensationalisation comes from the Daily Express hack.



    Huh ? I've mixed with, studied alongside and been taught by the astrophysicists that you claim are part of some global conspiracy to keep astrophysicists in jobs. They are absolutely passionate about their subject.

    You never seek out the original source material so you have no idea what it said. Look at the NASA pages I have linked and tell me how you they are sensationalised.
     
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    Of course they're 'absolutely passionate' about it - it's their passport to a job for life, and a means of perpetuating government 'research' (note quotation marks? lol) grants; and the more they can hype it up, and introduce a bit of populist mystique, the better?

    We've started going over old ground so I'm er, running away now. You can stay if you like.
     
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    Bye Sir Robin.

    Why not take some time, look at the NEO database and let me know how you think it is hyped up.
     
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    My favourite and the most relevant.:wink:

    Edit- oops forgot the link

     
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