SEAL who killed bin Laden mocks 2020 Democrat for caring about immigrant families instead of homeles

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  1. Infrared

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    Kind of a big deal there bro

    Not gonna lie
     
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  2. US Conservative

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    You couldn't know why I support Trump if you tried.
     
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    Oh, for sure.

    Zero Dark Thirty.

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    Jessica Chastain was Hella Hot in that Movie.:flagus:
     
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    lol@christians
     
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    Obamma had 8 years, what happened?
     
  6. US Conservative

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    IIRC, he shot Osama bin laden in the face. (spell check says Osama should mean Obama)
     
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    Sounds like you are mistaken. My comment is an observation, not a hope for war. Ridiculous
     
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    From the old 60's song, "hate your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace".
     
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    1. You are seriously confused, BY LAW they have to be separated to insure the kids aren't being trafficked but even Trump is doing what OBAMA did now and is holding them in open doored enclosures.

    2. Well if 100,000 didn't show up because traffickers know the loop hole and are profiting off of it we wouldn't be in this f'ing situation. Congress should fix the loop hole, we had over 1,400 Africans claim asylum last week. Flew to Mexico, walked across the border and claimed asylum. Who in there right mind can't understand the how stupid this loophole is and not fix it and why wouldn't you want to fix it? Human rights give me a f'ing break, what happens when the are released on the street, without food/water, without a job, and without a roof over their head? There is nothing humane about releasing a mom and kid to the wolves! The HB1 visa systems gurantees all these things and they even come certify the living quarters, I've had two inspections this past month I KNOW.

    3. Again real human releasing kids onto streets without food, water, and shelter. Who the hell do you think your kidding that is effectively insuring something bad is going to happen to them and you don't give a crap about it for some reason. Children are not being separated anymore like OBAMA did, Trump is breaking the law to pacify you hypocrites screaming humane treatment it's sickening to me knowing that even one of those little girls may end up a sex slave because you libs have made this a political stance. The inhumane part is obvious by you guys, come on we'll get you set free then figure out how to live on the street, hope you do well......Really that's your freaking answer to these people, sickening. YOU HAVE LITERALLY INSURED SEX TRAFFICING AND DRUG MULES BY INNOCENT PEOPLE, congrats lefties.
     
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    You're probably right. How anyone can support Trump is probably beyond my capacity to understand, & certainly beyond my ability to embrace. :(
     
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    Excellent post.

    To the left, its about virtue signalling.

    The actual people impacted have nothing to do with it.
     
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    1. The difference between Trump & Obama on this issue, is that Obama didn't separate the kids from their families. Under Obama, those kids were separated from their parents BEFORE they crossed the border. Obama had to cope with providing lodging, food & safety while they were processed & their families attempted to be located. Trump initiated a policy of separating children from their families after they crossed together, but didn't mandate keeping records sufficient to allow reuniting them later. That's a big difference.
    2. I agree with you that Congress should fix the immigration laws. I'm not suggesting that the kids or the adult illegals should be set free into the U.S. I'm suggesting that they be treated with more respect & care while here, & that they be processed thru the system more efficiently. Processing shouldn't take months--especially for those being deported. Separation of children & parents should NEVER be permanent. I don't care what laws were broken, kidnapping children from parents is itself a criminal act & can never be permitted as a response to a simple border crossing. This is especially true if that kidnapping results in permanent separation. How can anyone believe that creating orphans is a solution to immigration? That's nuts.
    3. Your rant here is misplaced & misdirected. No one is suggesting releasing children onto the streets under the conditions you describe. Anyone with a brain knows the scenario you offer here is a non-starter, and we can find far better solutions that actually solve the problems without creating more. We just need to work together to do that. Blaming lefties isn't part of that process.
     
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    I know it is.
     
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    Many of Trump's lies are easy to document. His fans just deny them, yes?
     
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    To the left (of which I am a part), it's about humanitarian values & human rights. That appears to be something Trump, his sycophants & all the Americans who support him with their votes, seem to have chosen to disregard or discard as personal values in their own lives.
     
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    Then explain how you claim to support "humanitarian values and human rights" by allowing human trafficking, and widespread rape of women and children on the border.

    Like I said, its all about signalling. We get it.
     
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    Typical.

    Dem's more worried about bringing and supporting their new voter base before talking care of their own.
     
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    It is all about votes? No, it is all about compassion for those who have much less than us. Do you have compassion for others? It is a yes or no answer.
     
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    Wrong Obama did don't lie or google Obama separating families, IT'S THE LAW XploreR

    You said they should be let go after a couple days in an earlier post but hey now you just kicked it backed to Congress, they pass bills for funding projects you know?

    My rant, lol its the reality XploreR, they got no where to go bud they are released into the streets. I love how you criticize yet won't even accept that by doing what the left wants you are putting illegals in the streets, with children, without food, and without shelter. Deal with the whole f'ing problem, don't hide from part of it. It's just like bussing them to lefty sanctuary cities, first thing those libs did was scream not here. Pathetic! You guys are literally promoting this crap its pathetic how little you really give a crap about these illegals, you only care about your political punch lines, congrats.
     
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    That's because Trump has become a cult figure for many Americans. As with any cult, rational thought & facts aren't valued much by the followers or the leader. That makes their actions seem irrational most of the time, & immune to close scrutiny. It also makes them difficult to impossible to anticipate, or to work with in a rational way.
     
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    The babies & young children being held in cages for weeks or months at a time in the harshest of conditions with no hint of humanitarian concern, & supported in full measure by people like you, are NOT human traffickers or rapists. Neither are the vast majority of adults currently incarcerated there. You seem to believe that any form of inhumanity, or cruelty is acceptable toward these innocent refugees, so long as that violence is in support of your ideals. You are like Trump. And both of you are wrong.

    According to news reports today, rapes of innocent girls incarcerated by us at Yuma, AZ are being inflicted by the guards responsible for their safety. This is an example of YOUR AMERICA, not mine.
     
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    1. Under Obama, illegals were almost instantly deported, not incarcerated forever waiting for processing. It was NOT the law to separate children from families UNLESS the one adult or all the adults accompanying the child was discovered to be a criminal. Otherwise, parents & children were allowed to stay together if they crossed into the U.S. together. Children who crossed alone, without an adult, were held for their safety until some solution could be found for them, either here or back with their families. Trump changed the law to say children had to be separated from their adults because all the adults were to be held indefinitely in anticipation of processing--which seems to never happen. Meanwhile, Trump closes access to hopeful asylum seekers who want to enter the U.S. legally, forcing some of them to try entering illegally out of desperation. Then, once caught, they become recorded as illegals & thus, "criminals." Trump's policies are causing this problem. If he'd followed Obama's policies, we wouldn't be dealing with all this misery right now.
    2. I do think the whole immigration problem can't be resolved until Congress steps in and acts. Until then, I think all the illegals we catch should be taken back to the border & forced across into Mexico & not held here indefinitely like they are now, at our increasing cost, both in money & embarrassment. Trump's policy of holding all these people forever waiting some legal action is a waste of time, effort & resources. It's unnecessary & inhumane & a non-solution to the issue. All children should be returned to their parents, kept together, & processed immediately to determine their future, & moved forward into that future whatever it may be. Indefinite incarceration & separation is inhumane & not a good advertisement for American values.
    3. I never suggested or advocated letting children go free in the streets of America unprotected. That came from you. The whole idea never entered my mind, & since I'm totally opposed to it, it never will. I want humane, workable solutions to this disaster, not more victims. Incarceration is not an answer for this problem. Fixing the processing system to deal with it can be. Having Congress do their job can be a solution too.
     
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    Since the United States is notably stingy amongst first world countries in terms of welfare, and the US is also notably stingy with foreign aid, one has to wonder what you’re talking about.
     
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    Don't forget the public sector pensions and Cadillac retirement benefits packages. Lucky for me I commute less than 5 miles a day for work with a car that gets 30+MPG.
     
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