SEALs Knew ‘They Were Screwed From Beginning’ In Fatal Yemen Raid, Went Into Battle

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Considering the things Obama did at the end of his last month in office and what he's done recently why WOULDN'T one be suspicious of that scum bucket leftist nation-hater? But on the whole I have to agree this time with the critics of Trump. As Commander-in-Chief he owns this for good or ill. He could have nixed it, but he didn't.
     
  2. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kelley Anne Conway was just on hardball spinning the mission as a great success although she as well as all of us are quite saddened by the death of one of our Navy Seals...So which is it, Obama's team was responsible for this big screw up or Trump's team was responsible for this great military victory. What the hell is the point of this thread? Do you guys still need your daily fix of blaming all of your failures and discontent on that darned uppity negro? He's out of there champ. He gave it his best shot for 8 years and left gracefully even according to Trump. I for one, hope he enjoys his well earned retirement with his wife and family for decades, far away from the ignorant hateful bunch of blowhards who have been taking cheap shots at him and his family for 8 years straight. Now it's your boy's turn to take the heat. I seriously doubt that he will be as classy and humble as his predecessor. Cheers
     
  3. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The operation may have been successful in that the intelligence data collected was immense. However, the operation was in my opinion designed to fail and make Trump the scapegoat. Just another landmine left by Obama and his PML's. Thankfully there was only one killed, six wounded and a 75 million dollar Osprey destroyed. Seal Team 6 Spec Operators are know for their adapting to the situation and finishing the job they were tasked with. I'm sure the survivors won't be ordered into an old Chinook CH-47 for a ride into eternity this time around as was the Bin Laden team.
     
  4. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is looney champ. Only people who read whacky conspiracy sites for news would believe that President Obama would sell us out and intentionally get our guys killed. Even Trump as whacky as he is does not believe that. Get a grip mate, you are losing it.
     
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    "U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counter terrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations. As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists"

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15G5RX

    Hope that answers your question

    Was the operation rushed without sufficient intel on the kind of risk we were taking in this mission? probably.. but the operation wasn't approved by our previous commander in chief. That part isn't up to debate
     
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    That much hate and name calling is impotence personified.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    :clapping: The accusations on here are often vicious and irrational.
     
  8. Gatewood

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    Well yes, but the hate-filled and name calling Obama is now out of political office.
     
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    Obama didn't talk like you.. I guess you consider yourself to be UN PC.
     
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    Remembers heavy on Cuba and invasion of pigs bay issue where the former president inherited his follower BS mission!

    Anyway ... Trump was for sure informed as new President, even when idiots like Bannon are now in security council ... and if it was known before that mission can run this way, why didn't Trump, why didn't the CinC in SpecOps cancel this mission before ending this way?
     
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    There are no crystal balls to predict the outcome of these kinds of high risk operations.

    I hated it when they trashed Obama .. and its no different with Trump.

    To claim any US president wanted this outcome is vicious.
     
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    They planned it, why would they cancel it and no, Trump was not informed it would go badly. The word is that the drones flew lower than normal tipping off the enemy.
     
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    I clearly remember Jack Kennedy going on national tv and taking full responsibility for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Then, behind the scenes he fired Allen Dulles and vowed to break the CIA into 1000 pieces. Kennedy was a class act...
     
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    And that they flew lower as usual was ordered by Obama ... or why is Obama blamed for it?
    And Trump was not informed about this mission? Ehm ... are the responsible persons not yet fired by him, because as far as I know Trump he likes it very much to be uninformed about things like this!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Indeed ...
     
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    The point is that this was not a Trump operation other than the military wanted to wait for a moonless night. I also did not blame Obama. Military operations like this are inherently dangerous going in. The fake news is that Trump knew this was a doomed operation.
     
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    So in content did someone in military / intelligence his job not proper enough or it was simply a case of "(*)(*)(*)(*) happens" how it can always happen at such missions.

    Ok, you don't blame Obama here, but for me not understandable why others do about. I think it is only the nonsense of general Obama hate inside them out of what Obama is even for bad weather guilty.
     
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    It is really a case of (*)(*)(*)(*) happens. Maybe some are just responding in kind to the Trump hate.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya...Gute Frage. Why don't you answer it.

    Shortly after his inauguration, in February 1961, President Kennedy authorized the invasion plan. But he was determined to disguise U.S. support. The landing point at the Bay of Pigs was part of the deception. The site was a remote swampy area on the southern coast of Cuba, where a night landing might bring a force ashore against little resistance and help to hide any U.S. involvement. Unfortunately, the landing site also left the invading force more than 80 miles from refuge in Cuba's Escambray Mountains, if anything went wrong. The invasion began in April 1961, Kennedy had plenty of time to rescind the invasion order, however he went forward and weakened the invasion which then failed. Had JFK followed through with the original planning the outcome would have been different. JFK by denying naval and air support ensured the failure of the invasion and the deaths of the Cuban freedom fighters.
    Your comparison is flawed. Try again.
     
  19. Mandelus

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    Ehm ...

    You made a wrong thinking way of interpretation of my post!

    Was Pig bay something planned by the President administration and CIA before Kennedy took over the power and which ended in a disaster? Yes!
    Was this SEAL mission something planned by the President administration and CIA etc. before Trump took over the power and which ended ... as reported in OP ... in a disaster? Yes.

    Any reasons and comments why, when, where out of what reasons, backgrounds and what happened in detail was not part of my post and intention.
     
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    Actually, he was having dinner!!!! What an irresponsible clown!
     
  21. jrr777

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    The truth should always be known, and it is the only thing worth fighting for.
     
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    That's cute. Did you get that from a fortune cookie?

    We're talking about special operations keeping their missions top secret so the troglodytes we're going after can get their 72 virgins as quickly as possible.
     
  23. jrr777

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    Yeah because if the troglodytes knew we was coming, we wouldn't be able to defeat them. There ya go!
     

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