Sean Hannity denounces Bundy's remarks as "despicable, ignorant"

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    So why did TED CRUZ denounce Bundy, Mac????
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How unbelievably ill-informed.Then explain how Ronald Reagan was elected
    twice.Then Bush 41 and Bush the Younger,twice.
    Obama and his democrats have done more to destroy that party than
    any time in our History.Just research what the public thinks of the democrat
    leaders,like Pelosi or Reid.Or Congress in general.
    Yes,it's true Obama had a good run at his ability to portray himself as if
    the next Elvis or Cult of Personality.But that has surely worn off.
    In fact it's now threadbare.
    Democrats up for re-election know this.Watch and see how many want Obama
    around when they go out to public venues to campaign for re-election.
    In fact,I doubt they'll want President Clinton around either.
    You see ... the dirty little secret is it was President Clinton who imposed
    a War on Woman.
    Unless Galsy like :
    Paula Jones
    Kathleen Willey
    Juanita Broaddrick
    Gennifer Flowers
    Of course the always friendly to Democrat Mainstream media did their part
    to either not cover those women's story or openly mocked them.
    " Why are we even covering what this woman has to say."
    " Trailer park trash ".
    " some sleazy women with big hair. "
    When Jones came forth with her charges at a public press conference,
    CBS and NBC totally ignored her.ABC devoted just 16 seconds to her press
    conference.
    Sound familiar.Like the way Brian Williams spent all of 18 seconds covering
    - Fast & Furious - in over 2 years.
    it's Formulaic.It cannot stand.Americans aren't gonna tolerate Stalinism.
     
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    LOL! Yup, you probably DO need "racist" explained to you.....

    His EXACT words have been all over the news, I didn't even need the internet ....maybe if you pulled your head out....
     
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    because they'd { democrats } would make him the poster boy for GOP hypocrisy.
    because republicans don't pull that crap.
    If Republicans did pull that crap then Elijah Cummings would be the democrat
    poster boy for hypocrisy and rank partisanship.
     
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    To cut his political loss.

    The lib news media is mischaracterizing Bundy and Cruz sees no way to win the argument.

    It's a victory for lib political correctness.
     
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    It figures my post would be followed by personal attacks on me, when you produced no counter argument. Okay, that's fine. Go get em tiger. Typical playbook for the right wing defense.

    And I never mentioned anything about Hannity's career. Lol!! But you are following in Hannity's footsteps yourself by assuming information before you have it. This is what gets him and you in trouble. And it always will. Running your mouth about stuff you haven't a clue about.
     
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    Quit using yer reply's as if some moderator.Because that's a cop out.
    If you can't stand the heat,get out the kitchen.
     
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    Since the thread was shut down...let me point out once again to the Bundy Loyalists....


    TED CRUZ, your "Saviour", also denounced Bundy. So who's left on the Right who supports him, outside of bloggers and some militia nuts?
     
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    Cliven Bundy is No bigot.he explained what he meant on the Alex
    jones radio show.he said he was " wondering ". Wondering if blacks
    were better off today sitting on front porches and sidewalks with
    such unhappy faces.Or is this the new slavery.Blacks dropping out of
    school,getting into trouble,being arrested and not being fathers.
    Aborting more than half of their babies.
    Or were blacks actually happier when they had work and families
    and gardens and were a unit.Slavery was not the all terrible thing
    historians use as excuse.Some slave owners treated their slaves very well.
    Even put them in their wills.Look at how Blacks are treated in Africa.
    They are machete'd.Slaughtered en masse.Whole villages wiped out.
    Not gonna hear to much about that.
    Just how Racist everyone in America is.It's a con. Yer Racist because
    you criticize ObamaCare.It's the new rule for radicals.Just run around with
    some moral high ground and scream racist.
    How racist is an Al Sharpton.
    Can someone tell me the last time Al Sharpton went to the defense of a
    White Kid or White Mom.If ever.
    We have a disease in this country spreading like the plague.
    it's not Racism. It's the Con. You can't keep a people down or in place
    without proper shame.Especially when contrived.
    Republicans believe in Independence { limited authority of the State }
    and Freedom.Slavery was wrong but it's long over.Jim Crow was
    even worse.What Thurgood Marshall saw firsthand in the Deep south was
    horrendous.The book - Devil in the Grove - a Pulitzer Prize winner is
    a must read for anyone trying to understand Racism.
     
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    If nuts like Bundy keep bringing it up, slavery is still an issue. If Bundy was so concerned about the blacks why doesn't he ask them if they would be willing to trade places. His welfare package for theirs. Heck, I'll bet they'd say yes and pay the fees the government asks for. Has Clive Bundy ever considered the fact that he was born into ranching through his family and those blacks living in substandard housing on the north end of town were not. Their ancestors were slaves with zero opportunity and they never inherited land or the opportunity to raise cattle in the Nevada desert. And you can bet one thing, if they had tried, they would have ended up with a rope around their necks. The game was and still is rigged against the black man today.
     
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    They { the ingrate shill hacks at MSNBC } said almost the same things about
    Ladies like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann.Using every nasty word to
    define those accomplished women.Like nutbag,wingnut,loon etc.
    How long before another very respected and accomplished lady in her
    senior years will feel the wrath of the real nutbags { those shills at MSNBC }.
    Phyllis Schlafly Please come Home.
     
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    Quit complaining about other's replies and get down to the business of defending
    yer rotten,twisted logic.Which apparently was groomed at sites like
    DailyKos and Huffington and Media Matters { Soros funded }.
    of course the nominal usual suspects at MSNBC and Think Progress.
     
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    But as we're about to see below, only those on the right are called at fault for it.


    As opposed to the endless racist assumptions liberals make about black, brown, red, yellow AND white people?

    What's with your ideological moral blinders?
     
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    If you were actually against racism you wouldn't be engaging in it by pegging a person like Bundy as "racist" at first sight within seconds based on his race and age. If you were actually concerned about black people, you would do something more than whine on internet forums about how white people aren't concerned about black people. If you really believed in equality, you wouldn't ask white people to take concern for and give things to black people; you'd be telling them to leave blacks alone so they can handle their affairs like the competent adults they are.

    Free blacks were all over the old West raising their own cattle, btw. You have a serious lack of historical understanding, and typically of the Left, those historical gaps are filled with ahistorical political narratives.

    We get it. You're ticked at whitey. You're racist against whites while claiming to be against racism and then you are wholly unable to defend your racism against whites so you cop out and refuse to respond.

    You'd throw a fit if a white person said "I had him pegged as a criminal within the first few seconds I first saw him," about a black person, yet you said that about Cliven Bundy being a racist.

    Pot meet kettle.
     
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    Yeah but Hannity caved.Probably because MSNBC and those like Ed Schultz
    would use any further defense of Cliven Bundy to totally wipe out not just Sean
    Hannity { Schultz already tried with Liberal lawyer Melanie Sloan }
    and Fox as THE Alternative. At least Megyn Kelly had on Libertarian smarty
    Talk Radio Dana Loesch { Lash } to put the story into proper context.
    Instead of the almost viral Hannity approach of " Denouncing " practically every
    fibre of Cliven Bundy.
    Liberals NEVER do that to their own { Fellow Liberal democrats }.
    Why Can't guys like Hannity and Charles Krauthammer do likewise.
    Not be so allfire quick to denounce a person over words.
    Like I say ... You'll never catch a Democrat or Liberal pundit pull that.
    Which is their strength.
    Hannity showed his hand.His powder is all wet.
    I lost a lot of respect for Hannity last night.Hannity was also one of those
    who refused to even debate Obama's Birth certificate.
    I hope it comes out that it was a fraud all along.
    Hannity also bought almost instantly the faked,bogus Osama Bin Laden raid.
    Where was the little Mic { Irishman } when a Chinook helicopter went down in
    Afghanistan killing 30 American soldiers including 22 Navy Seals.
    Navy Seals never travel in groups exceeding 6.
     
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    Seems to me pretty obvious.It's pols like Harry Reid and Lobbyist Son Rory who get
    political favors and can easily get exemption.is the game rigged as far as Obama
    picking winners and losers in granting waivers/exemptions.Or doling out Millions
    in failed from the start Solar projects.
    I think you got all this a$$ backward,pally.
    Why was the Congressional Black Caucus allowed to use the house floor
    in defense of Trayvon Martin.
    Why was instigator Al Shaprton given a Trayvon rally permit within hours.
    And personal friend of George Zimmerman denied a permit month after month.
    " You got yer facts all wrong Buddy " - Ed Schultz to a vet
     
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    The only historical perspective worth a hill of beans is what those
    tens of thousands of Homesteaders suffered thru during the Dust Bowl
    years.The High Plains was not just crippled but mortified.Many lost everthing
    within a couple years.People died from losing their mind and Dust pneumonia.
    Starvation was a way of life.Many had to rely on tumbleweed to feed their few
    cattle.When the Dust Blizzards kept up for years the few cattle were sold for
    dollars at auction.There were No such thing as gardens.There was No Crop
    that could grow in knee high drifts of dirt and dust.Homes { more like ground shelters
    and shacks could not no matter how well sealed with wet mud and wet cloths
    could keep the dust from accumulating.} It was a fact of life.The constant threat of
    dusters and the mounds of dust & dirt everywhere.
    Someone tell me if Slaves had it as bad.They can't.
     
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    Ronald Reagan was elected and then re-elected fairly. But today he would be drummed out of the GOP. He raised taxes, raised the debt ceiling, exploded the deficit, grew the size of government, pushed for gun control, granted amnesty to illegals, and dared to get along with congressional Democrats, among other things. Any one of these things would make him satanic in the eyes of today's GOP primary voters.

    Bush 41 was nominated because, as the VP of a moderately popular president, he was next in line. If there's an obvious successor, that's who Republicans almost always nominate. He was elected because he had the good fortune of running against one of the weakest Democratic nominees in modern times. He was not re-elected.

    Bush the Lesser wasn't elected in 2000. He was appointed. We will never know if he won the vote in Florida, since the recount was stopped when it appeared Gore was gaining. What is certain is that he lost the nationwide popular vote. In 2004, he won a slender re-election victory (hardly the broad "mandate" that he claimed the day after the election) aided and abetted by election fraud in Ohio.
     
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    Lol! You speak as if I have some control over that. I wish I did. They just had a supreme court decision which strips much of the voting rights act for minorities. Like I have some power over that. Give me a break.

    Care to give us some hard historical numbers of "ALL these blacks all over the west raising their own cattle? And the ones who did what became of them? I'd wager that fad died out due to the fact the black man was such a minority in the west versus the south.

    I don't recall being the one bringing up race other than Clive Bundy. How is that relevant to him owing the government a million dollars. Bundy's racism is abundantly clear because he took issue with that instead of taking issue with the original problem he has. You are doing the same thing he is. Changing the narrative to attack others. You and he are doing the same exact thing to avoid discussing the money he rightfully owes the government. I could say the same of you as Hannity says of Bundy. Your statements about me are despicable because I'm criticizing Bundy for his racist views that have nothing to do with the debt, while trying to label me as a racist.

    And by the way, for your information, Pot didn't just meet Kettle. Pot has known Kettle for many decades. There is a very strong organized group in the west which hates government and anyone else who isn't like them called the white supremacist . When you here a man out west who hates government, everyone knows what that means. There are no mystery questions out there that need asking as to what those who hate government mean and want. So your cute little reverse racism comments aren't going to help you much when we are talking about the white western anti-government good ole boy.

    Like I said before. He hates the federal government. He's no mystery. Turns out I was right about the racism too.
     
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    Yet again you ignore your racist conclusion about Bundy due to his race. Is this about the 6th time now? Here let me help you: Cliven Bundy's black bodyguard claims rancher is NOT racist and he would 'happily' take a bullet for him

    Aside from that, your above response is a complete non-sequitur.


    You made the primary claim and haven't provided any historical background for it. So in light of that, why would you come along and demand I give you figures? More of your double standards?


    You spend several pages trying to ignore me and now come up with this nonsense. What? You said that you concluded he was racist within moments of LOOKING at him, and you refuse to own up to your racist conclusion.

    THIS is what you said: I could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him.

    Now own up to it. You had him pegged as a racist before any supposedly "racist" statements came out of his mouth, racist.

    You refuse to answer as to whether it would be racist if a white person pegged a black person as a criminal "the second they laid eyes on him." I wonder why?

    Cute little thing, trying to circle the wagons make unsubstantiated BS insinuations because you got caught engaging in RACISM by pegging someone as a racist "the second you laid eyes on him."

    Hey, Bobby Seale and the Black Panther Party were government-haters out west. Are they "white supremacists," too?

    Hilarious. Beyond hilarious. This is turning into a circus act.

    YOU ARE A RACIST.

    So you're saying that if a white person goes around pegging a black person as a criminal "the second they laid eyes on him," then it would be a justified practice if it can be pointed out that once in a while he was accurate.

    Yes. Pot meet kettle. Feeling a little hot for you right now?

    By the way, you said the right should be "embarrassed" by this. Why aren't you saying the left should be embarrassed about their politicians who have repeatedly associated with Farrakhan and some have attended his speeches? Then again we shouldn't be surprised as you considered Hannity's complaints about racist Jeremiah Wright "nonsense."

    And I bet you're a Farrakhan sympathizer.

    More racial double standards from you? You don't say...

    As Salaam Alaikum!
     
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    Let me point out here that this makes you DOUBLE the racist.

    White + westerner + distrust of the feds = racist.

    If this rancher were black, you'd be supporting him.
     
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    I appreciate your attempt to switch the narrative to make me the bad guy, but there is one small detail about your theory that just will never pan out with the rest of the audience on this. One not need look hard into the historical facts of many western states(not all), to see that there is a strong connection with anti-government/ white supremacist sentiments in many of your more rural areas of the west. If you do just a little research on your own, you will see that it is abundantly clear, that these areas are famous for their anti-government/white supremacist stance. Put it this way; I know of "none", like the little town of Bunkerville where the majority of the towns people are not tied someway to hatred and bigotry and hide under the umbrella of the white supremacist movement. Bundy's comments about race cemented that fact, when the original issue was about him not paying his fees to the federal government. I find it amusing yet totally inaccurate how you love to twist the narrative to attack the messenger when all you have to do is look around in these places to see the evidence for yourself. Carry on with your fantasies.
     
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    1) You have failed to defend your racist claims about Bundy in that you "could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him." 2) What a sad cop out that you respond in vague caricatured generalizations, without a single source for your claim. You are invoking a liberal narrative to defend your racism in that you "could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him." You are putting those who distrust government and are "white supremacists" in the same pot without justifying it. Every time you post, you dig a deeper hole.

    "Look around" is not evidence. It's a cop out.

    All you are doing is admitting even if indirectly that you had Bundy pegged a racist "could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him," because he is a white man. Period. Rather than just saying, "Yes," you deny it and then indirectly admit so, like you just did. You're hilarious.

    YOU ARE A RACIST.

    You are arguing in racist caricatures and attempting to justify it by saying "it's not uncommon." Okay, I shall take your advice and apply it to black folks.

    OK -- Let me rephrase what you just said and make it about black folks instead of white ones:

    "One not need look hard into the crime rates of many southern states(not all), to see that there is a strong connection with high black crime rates/high black STD rates in many of your more black areas of the US. If you do just a little research on your own, you will see that it is abundantly clear, that these areas are famous for their black crime/black out of wedlock birth problems. Put it this way; I know of "none", like the little town of Atlanta where the majority of the towns people are not tied someway to gangs and drugs and hide under the umbrella of the black rights movement."

    You thinking is grotesquely simplistic. Summarized,

    1) They're white.
    2) They're distrustful of government (only blacks, Latinos, and Indians are allowed to be distrustful of the US government).
    3) They're Westerners.
    4) They're white.
    5) They're white.
     
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    Rant along on your merry way. The people who know me know one thing about me you will never know. My eyes, ears, and judgment never lie. Call it what you like. I call it good horse sense. And that sense has always proven to be right. Since you insist on me tooting my own horn, there you have it. People who know me well, when they ask me to scrutinize another, my assessment is always on the money. I take it you have no more questions about Cliven Bundy, seeing that he's already been sized up with pin point accuracy? :smile:
     
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    I also have a simple question for you: Is racial profiling wrong or not? Yes or no? You have avoided giving me direct answers to questions on whether or not the behavior you exhibit would be acceptably applied to blacks. All you have done as a response is to dodge answering such questions while denying you are doing it and then doing it even more, explaining in further depth that you have indeed racially profiled this guy.

    Your "assessment" is based on race and age, while at the same time you did not say that it was OK for a white person to "assess" a young black male as a criminal on first sight. Considering crime statistics on the very high rates of crime committed by black males in their teens and 20s, all you just did was side with the likes of Darryl Gates and others who promote and practice racial profiling of potential black criminals.

    So please keep this in mind and never complain - ever - when you hear about blacks in general and black males in specific being "assessed" as culprits due to their age and gender, since you have spent considerable time defending the practice.

    By the way, it's already obvious you're black. How old are you? What is your criminal record? I bet I can "assess" the likelihood that you are one based on your race and age.

    Please, do tell.

    Gotta love that good sense. I've seen the racial crime breakdowns. Blacks have a HUGE criminal problem.

    Thank you so much for that. If the shoe fits, right? Yes.
     

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