Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm certainly not a fan of lying Women that like squak a bunch of BS for their 15 minutes of fame and as far as the abortion ruling, YES! love it, finally time women start being a lot more responsible about their irresponsible sexual behavior and the life inside them that they create because of it. I'm a reasonable person and don't expect a woman to carry to term her rapists baby, but if she waits until it's a completely viable baby after lets say 21 weeks and then decides to abort it after waiting that long, sorry she's going to the slammer for murder just as if she killed it right after she gave birth to it. There are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancies and Women need to use precautions, because after a certain point, it won't be just her body anymore.
     
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    So do you believe the president sits in the front passenger seat?
     
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    It is incredibly unlikely that she is lying, regarding this, and nearly a sure bet that you misunderstand the facts. I just heard this, myself: Hutchinson's story about Trump trying to take control of his vehicle, to go to the Capitol, was a story that Hutchinson claimed was related to her by someone else (as by another aide). Therefore she was attributing the story to another person. She could only be, "lying," if no one else told her this. The accuracy of her 2nd hand info., though, still, must be taken with a grain of salt.
     
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    I thought the same thing earlier, but thought maybe they were in an suv like he was in for the hospital thing.
    Seems unlikely he could grab the wheel in the beast.
    I think there's something odd about that part, it's possible she's mis-remembering it, or she's completely accurate and was told an exaggeration. Likely a little of both.
    Something like "He was so mad I thought he was gonna grab the wheel" turns into, upon retelling turns into "he grabbed at the wheel".
    Unfortunately, that's a small fish compared to the rest of the testimony.
    The focus is intentionally being placed so much on the SS part, to take attention away from the really damning part.
    I won't criticise Trump for not going to the capital building anymore, one notch up, but the rest? 10 notches down.
     
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    I suppose it's possible that the president rides in the front passenger seat but I don't think it's very likely.

    And it goes without saying that you would need to be in the front passenger seat to attempt to take the wheel
     
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    Eloquently phrased. I’ve nothing to add. +1
     
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    It speaks to The credibility of the rest of the information
     
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    Not to me. When I'm told something second hand I automatically don't give it as much credence as first hand statements.
    So, are you saying that once someone lies, everything else they say is untrue?
     
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    I don't know about you but when I catch someone in a lie I tend to look at everything else they say with a very critical eye
     
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    Semantics. The link includes the names of those agents who would testify. That they aren't on the witness list is part of the scandal. F them and their phony kangaroo hearing.
     
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    Some unnamed source claims the agent is willing to testify. That’s not the same as “that agent said”.
     
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    Not semantics at all. There’s a big difference between a quote from someone and hearsay about what that person is willing to say, from an unnamed source.
     
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    Not in this case. You asked for names and got names.
    Especially when you got your answer in response to testimony everyone is acting like gospel even though that really is hearsay, and ridiculous hearsay at that. Trump, from the back seat of a limo attacking a secret service driver when that vehicle has a structure in place meant to separate them.

    I am curious if an SUV they claim was the actual vehicle Trump was in, not the Presidential Limo, has such a divider.
     
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    Scary thing is Tucker Carlson is suggesting this whole thing is about a lot more than a distraction but laying down a rationale to arrest people for political speech, including simply asking questions about election integrity, something that has been done in every modern election.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z9XnWAR9yLEU/
    Fun video about this dumpster fire of "testimony" that really was inadmissible hearsay:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z9XnWAR9yLEU/
     
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    RINOs giving testimony, not evidence.
     
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    This whole sham would never even make it into a real court of law.
     
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    Do give me a source for those stats?
     
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    Agreed, this is a case of Chinese whispers, it's just the incredible publicity this has been given, you'd think it was Monica's dress. I think we can put this away like Trump urinating on Obama's bed or Biden with cornpop or Hilary running a paedophile ring in a pizza parlour.
     
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    Lol…then let them state their claims under oath and risk of perjury if they want. Spouting bullshit on faux news doesn’t cut the mustard.
     
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    Always deflecting and ignoring reality. You know what's bliss?
     
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    And the rest of her testimony? Was it all second hand or is that the only taking point from the spin masters?
     
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    As I predicted in another thread:

    "Character assassination of Hutchinson to commence in 3, 2, 1..."

    Everyone who dares to speak the truth about their great leader MUST be destroyed. See Vindman... Hutchinson is very brave to put herself through this. Now the RW media will go through her life with a fine comb and pick out ANYTHING that they can use as ammunition to smear her.
     
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    Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus is a Latin maxim meaning "false in one thing, false in everything." At common law, it is the legal principle that a witness who testifies falsely about one matter is not credible to testify about any matter.
     
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    The aide she attributed the story to denies having said it.
     
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