Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel

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  1. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Uck. No wonder I don't watch legacy MSM. It happened to be on TV going into lengthy coverage of the hearsay testimony and added a bullet about the people to whom this allegedly happened stating it didn't happen, but this young lady stands by her hearsay testimony!
     
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    Yeah, you'd think she was Brett Kavanuagh or something?
     
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    I respond to what people say. Another poster said that a secret service agent “is telling us” something. I asked for the quote of what that agent “is telling us” and a link to the quote. Not just the name of the guy.

    It isn’t semantics to insist upon accuracy.
     
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    With regard to the topic of this thread, this poor old country mouse is content to wait and see what people actually say while under oath. There is a very real difference between statements made under oath and those which are made without the possible penalties that attach to perjury.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Sworn testimony is evidence.
     
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    Keep working the talking point from Trump loyalists who are not under oath or are not credible while the GOP fully inverts off the cliff hoping to take the rest of America with them. Fascists approve.
     
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    Why in the hell is 2nd hand hearsay "evidence" even being talked about it?! Joe told me that Jeff said that Mike grabbed Larry's butt..... this is evidence? It is an indictment of our Congress that they would countenance this kind of idiocy. More damning is that America is in perhaps worst economic spiral in it's history and this is what these jackasses are wasting their time (and our money) on.
     
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    Is she applying for a life-time seat on the SC? I didn't think so.

    As to the OP: At which point will Trumpers take ANY testimony seriously? We've been over this 100s of times. It started with Tillerson, he said Trump is a fu**ing moron (which he is). Of course, the RW denied and denied, first denying that he said it, then denying that he was going to leave. Well, all of it later turned out to be true.

    Since Tillerson, there are many accounts of people who worked in the Trump admin that confirmed that Trump is, in fact, a fu**ing moron and totally unfit to lead. Everyone reasonable can see that his behavior is that of a toddler in the body of a grown man, all it takes is to read his tweets. Therefore, EVERYTHING that Hutchinson said is totally in line with the picture of Trump's character that he himself painted over many years. There is no reason why she should not be believed.
     
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    Actual hearsay evidence in relevant part. And reviewing, yes you asked for a direct quote which I don't think is out there yet, but you claimed an unnamed source reported that the story is being denied. Looks more like it is being published that this is the named persons' direct account, which is libel if the publishers are lying.

    At this point, detractors of this "hearing" is that it is a kangaroo court. These actual named people will either not be sworn in to testify, or they might even be murdered before they are able to do so. I doubt we will actually hear from them, which is part of the point. They're painting THEIR narrative, what they want people believing. No pesky defense allowed. Just their phony side.

    From my perspective? Team Biden appears to have stolen the 2020 POTUS election. Trump told people to go peacefully protest. Apparent FBI asset Ray Eps et. al. set up a false flag operation so Trump's detractors would have something with which to try to de-legitimize dissent, even arresting people from inquiring about election integrity. And they set up this kangaroo court, even AFTER a failed impeachment attempt on this very subject.

    They seem to have paused this farce only to take time to foment violence and insurrection over USSC decisions they don't like.
     
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    Unnamed, the Secret Service issued a statement yesterday concerning the matter. lol
     
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    Ofcourse, how about a story that's not he said she said and that's not immediately refuted by the Secret Service and everyone else involved. You on the other hand think it must be true because she heard someone say something even though the secret service and everyone else involved says it didn't happen. Objective sir you are not.

    The bottom line the committee f'd up. They set up a kangaroo court soley designed to provide political carpet bombing, which deserves skepticism alone. Then like the past 5 years, they get over their skis to run with unverified info and exacerbate it to an unbelievable level, destroying their credibility. Americans don't need to think Trump did the unthinkable, they can see he's a self-serving jerk that now is putting himself in front of this country. The left for some stupid reason continues to make him seem like a victim with outlandish claims and pushing people back to his corner. Literally the dumbest political move I've ever seen. Talk about sore winners, damn.
     
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    If Agent "Engle" is still employed then they are lying.....
     
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    Ivanka is a RINO....?

    Who knew...?
     
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    I pay attention....do you?
     
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    Engle did not speak to the media, he testified to the J6 committee and his testimony has not been released.....
     
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    There are all kinds of ideologies which make up the GOP. There are neocons, conservatives and right libertarians, etc.,
    I think RINO is an inaccurate statement.

    Side note: Now, if a neocon, for example, were to say they were conservative, that would be a lie.
     
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    And theres your answer
     
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    Lets us know when you learn what the definition of deflection is
     
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    Exactly, if his testimony back her statement up, you get bet your last dollar it would have been part of their presentation. For some reason it wasn't. Things that make you go hmmm. Why aren't they realizing his testimony? Will they take up the SS offer of testifying again and want it broadcast? This committee somehow found a way to put themselves into a corner of legitimacy. It's now their move, we'll see.
     
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    You mean MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and CBS. And Engle already testified but his testimony isn't being released.
    Maybe if you actually watched any news you wouldn't have to make up excuses for something you clearly have no clue about
     
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    They will NEVER allow the SS agents to testify proving this is nothing more than a fake committee with a fake agenda
     
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    So when did you pay attention to the fact that Engle has already testified about the fake claim from Hutchinson yet they aren't releasing his testimony?
    Are you also paying attention to the fact they will not allow the SS agents to testify?
    Thats how fake your committee is
     
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    Still grasping for straws.....and failing again? It's akin to flailing.
     
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    Well, when all the 'air bubbles' and 'he-said, she-said' get mashed out of this gasp-inspiring little sidebar, it all comes down to this: Cassidy Hutchinson has testified UNDER OATH that various things were done and said by various people. Then, it surfaces that others, including on-the-site, at-the-time Secret Service personnel, are very willing to testify before this committee, also UNDER OATH, that what Hutchinson said is not true.

    Well, then... somebody has lied, distorted the truth, or otherwise deliberately cooked-up a bunch of headline-grabbers to throw crap on Trump. Does anybody else remember, "Russia, Russia, Russia"...? :lonely:

    At some point it will be revealed that someone has, or is about to, COMMIT PERJURY. And if that someone turns out to be Cassidy Hutchinson, watch liberal Democrats and their stooges in the 'news' media drop her like a dirty diaper....
     
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    If that’s your perspective you have been conned. You have swallowed the big lie hook, line and sinker.

    The reality is that Biden won the election fair and square.
    Donny tried to stay in power by whatever means possible.
    He tried to coerce election officials into changing the results.
    He lied that the election had been stolen.
    He tried to get the DOJ to lie that the election had been stolen.
    He conspired to submit false panels of electors.
    He tried to persuade the VP to overturn the election results by rejecting the valid electors.
    And he worked a mob into a frenzy with lies about a “stolen election” - a mob he knew to be armed - approved when they chanted “hang Mine Pence” then told them to March to the Capitol and fight.
     

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