Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel

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  1. Hey Now

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    Bobby Engel's Testimony Consistent With Cassidy Hutchinson—Legal Expert
    "Engel has already testified to the January 6 committee behind closed doors. Details of his deposition were previously reported by Politico, although it did not include a description of the alleged altercation."
     
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    My God, you guys fall for anything.
    They have a copy of his deposition but they aren't providing it?
    You don't believe the SS agents because they haven't testified
    but you will slurp up what some legal expert has to say about a deposition he has never seen?

    Whats going to be your excuse when they refuse to call the SS agents to testify?
     
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    More blah blah blah
     
  4. Hey Now

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    Looks like after the claim you made was exposed as purely false by the Politico article, you are now post flailing again. That was easy to fact check!
    Then give it a rest?
     
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    Rightists never read past the headline.
     
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  6. Hey Now

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    Well, it's not in the daily talking points handed out to the troll army.
     
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    Hmmm, That's weird. You posted this
    But at the same time you claim Politico says blah blah blah

    While refusing to answer the question as to why they won't allow the SS agents to testify
    And have no answer as to how Politico got an exclusive copy of Engels deposition.

    Seems your requirements for proof vary from post to post depending on what the information says
     
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    Then you two can surely provide copies of this deposition Politico claims to have.
    We will all wait here while you guys dig it up.
    Are were you both so gullible you just took it all at face value because you read a headline?
     
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    Yeah and you are still scrambling since he was under oath but never asked about that specific event nor did he mention much less deny it UNDER OATH. You are still flailing with the fake talking points to confuse the facts. He can go back under oath and answer specifically about it, you just have to get the facts and details straight to understand what you are reading. Not spinning for confusion.
     
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    Exactly.......
     
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    So you think holding Engels testimony in light of Hutchinsons testimony is a good thing?
    I bet you do lol
     
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    I missed the part how you would know whats in his deposition.
    Were you going to provide a link to his deposition or did you just decide a media article was good enough for you now.
     
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    Hutchinson said that everything she testified to was from other sources, not first hand accounts. She wont be prosecuted because she never made the claims, just that she heard them second hand. YES, lets get to the truth here. I will gladly await the J6 release of the testimony, although part of me thinks that they wont release that SS testimony because the SS deserves that discretion. They are honorable men doing honorable jobs.

    FTR: I really dont care if Trump grabbed the wheel, or did anything like that, I really don't. But only because we already know for a fact that he doesn't care about anyone but himself. This isnt some revelation that he doesn't care about other people.... it really isn't.
     
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    I think we need the truth.

    Engles already testified right ? So that creates a quandary here: The J6 committee already had Engles testimony. They weren't gong to publicly release it, and they called a special session to allow Hutchinson testify knowing what she was going to say. WHY would they do that if they knew Engles testimony contradicted hers ?
     
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    And he colluded with the Russians :rolleyes:
     
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    Did he say anything about the steering wheel incident?
     
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    Then all they would have to do is release Engels testimony to prove it. Right?
    Why hide Engels testimony that proves Hutchinsons testimony when the SS agents that were in the car claim its all a lie?

    Now you are starting to figure out why they WON'T release Engels testimony
     
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    The answer to that question is obvious. The Committee is trying to shape a narrative that only indicts Trump. Any testimony that doesn't contribute to that agenda isn't going to see light of day. Some day a spotlight will be shined on the dishonesty of this Committee's agenda, but unfortunately it will only be a footnote in history. No one will be held to account.
     
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    They wont do that because he is in the SS ? Thats a large problem for the J6 comitee.

    Why is EVERYTHING a some big conspiracy with the right in this country. Of COURSE they wont release his testimony.......its' the SS for crissakes.
     
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    More easily exposed flailing^. Read the articles on the internet and pay attention to the news vs only running with the day's talking points from the far RW spinners? Just a suggestion if you actually cared to be self informed.
     
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    Isn't it amazing how the left changes there position from day to day on whats credible

    Hutchinson states a president ORDERS the SS to take him to the capital, and they REFUSE his order. (Yeah, like they could do that)
    And the gullible left sucks it up

    Then Hutchinson claims the president fights with the SS to get control of the limo.
    And the gullible left sucks it up

    Engel has already giving a deposition yet the committee won't release his deposition
    But Politico claims to have read it, claims Engel never said anything about it, but doesn't provide any copy of it, and they buy into it hook line and sinker yet 4 SS agents claiming it never happened isn't credible enough.
    And the gullible left sucks it up

    The Secret Service agents that were in the car state it never happened
    But the gullible left claims their statement doesn't count because they aren't under oath

    The fake committee isn't calling any of the SS agents to testify
    But the gullible left isn't demanding they call them to testify.

    The fake committee isn't releasing Engels testimony
    But the gullible left isn't even asking for it

    Politico claims to have exclusive access to Engels Deposition
    But the gullible left isn't even asking how thats possible

    Haven't we seen this movie with its conclusions before?
    Like all the other fake committee claims we have seen from the left
    For example
    Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
    Nick Sandman is a white supremacist
    The cop at the capital was murdered with a fire extinguisher
    The president is a Russian plant
    Overturning Roe will ban abortions nationwide
    Illegals are drinking water from toilets while incarcerated
    And on and on and on and on and on

    They actually think the voting Americans are this stupid. Question is, how stupid would you have to be to think anyone with an IQ higher than a fence post would swallow this?
     
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    So you're saying they have direct testimony from the SS, and they called a special session of a witness who testified to everything "second hand" to contradict what the Secret Service said in testimony they weren't going to release in the first place ?

    WOW.....

    From my perspective they invited her to be that "third party" to actually get that out without releasing the SS testimony.
     
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    According to multiple sources and reports, he was never directly asked nor did he volunteer it while under oath. So, maybe he needs to reappear under oath and be questioned about it specifically? Regardless, the witness clearly stated it was second hand testimony and the majority of the rest of her testimony was damning and first hand accounts.
     
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    I am 'here' to discuss political issues and current events. My assumption (perhaps wrongly) is that anyone engaging in specific threads have, at the very least, a basic understanding of the subject.

    It isn't difficult for me to understand that you have not been following the hearings, nor do you have a real interest in them. If you did, you would be well aware of the testimonies I referenced. It isn't a simple question to ask what four of the witnesses have testified. Over the course of hours, they shared a lot of information and revelations.
     
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    So you can't provide any information on this magical deposition that Politico was given exclusive access too.
    Thats what I thought.

    Just an FYI, I am not that gullible to believe a media source was given exclusive access to Engles deposition or gullible enough to fall for claims of some secret source that claims they were.
    You on the other hand will buy into this and at the same time claim statements from the actual Secret service are not valid.
    Really tells the whole story, doesn't it.
     
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