Secretary of State Tillerson out amid clashes with Trump, to be replaced by CIA Director Pompeo

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  1. TomFitz

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    He was appointed as a gesture to Putin. The Russians are desperate to have the deal Tillerson made with Rosneft to upgrade their Siberian gas fields. The Russians need to sell oil because they have serious balance of payment issues. Tillerson was a signal to Moscow that the Trump policy toward Russia was going to be one of appeasement, as it has been.

    None the less, Tillerson was one of the few real adults in the Trump Administration. He was a real CEO, and had been used to dealing with world leaders and running a real global enterprise. I doubt that he had much use for an idiot like Trump.,
     
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    Obama made a deal that was so bad that he never bothered to have it ratified as a treaty

    Therefore it is just a handshake between the murdering mullahs and a guy who is no longer in office

    If that is the war you fear its better to have it before iran has nukes rather than after
     
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    I reread it several times to make sure I got it right - after all, English is not my first language... yep. You just said, Secretary of State had not much use for the president of the United States...

    You’re gift, my friend :applause:
     
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    You are correct, I never went through all that but I was never caught trying to plant an IED with the intent if killing a MRAP full of American soldiers either.

    Tough ❤️
     
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    The President must have confidence in his Secretary of State, the nature of the position requires this. Trump and Tillerson disagreed on some things, most notably the deal with Iran. This deal is a very important expression of foreign policy something else might be tolerable, but to so fundamentally disagree on something as important as the deal with Iran is a serious problem. Trump wants to undo that deal, he needs his Secretary of State to work with him on this, to help him find justification, to get allies behind Trump's goal, to support the application of the President's policy. Tillerson may disagree, he may strongly believe the deal with Iran was good, that it should be upheld, that it offers advantages and is good for US allies, nonetheless it is the President's foreign policy which he must advance and if that means voiding the deal with Iran, this is what the Secretary of State must do, if he won't, he's go to go.
     
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    From the warmest praise to out on his behind, because Trump only likes yes-men.
     
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    Tillerson's hiring were criticized too...and now he's gone. We'll see how long Pompeo will last.
     
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    Jesus H Christ frown on adulterers. He would never accept the job. TDS...indeed.
     
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    His failure to fire Ol' Rex in person shows a total lack of class.
     
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    I thought he only hired the best.

    He fires everyone! LOL! So much for "the best"
     
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    Here's more:

     
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    Yeah... I think Pompeo is going to make Bush's hawks... Cheney and Rumsfeld look like doves
     
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    He called him a "****ing moron" and never were truer words spoken.
     
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    Well...Trump did cheat on his many wives. Kim knows Trump's word is no good.
     
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    Ouch!!!
     
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    Suggesting you have no idea how healthy organization functions. Go back to sleep.
     
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    So, when is Trump leaving?
     
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    Are you available? Is your nose brown enough?
     
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    Did Tillerson really find out that he was fired from Trump's tweet? This administration is disgracefully unprofessional if this is the case.
    It can't be true though. It surely must be fake news from NBC. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/tillerson-learned-he-was-fired-from-trumps-tweet.html
     
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    Good move by Trump.
     
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    OP BREAKING NEWS

    Mike Pompeo has just been sacked via Twitter. :blankstare:
     
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    Those US soldiers were invaders, Jest. They were there to make war, but were outraged that the locals fight back (???).

    The whole fiasco stinks, and it doesn't stink less with time. It isn't without a reason that the torturees never had a real court process; It's because the US would have certainly lose said court process.
     
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    If you get your wish, the Iranians will immediately reconstitute their nuclear program, and this time, no amount of sanctions or bluster by the Clown Prince will keep them from achieving their goal.

    Stupid right wingers cheered George W Bush's bluster and John Bolton's absolutely counterproductive threats against North Korea right up till the day that they exploded their bomb.

    Having ignored the lessons of their own mistakes, they want to repeat it in Iran.
     
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    Actually it was stupid leftwingers in America and europe who refused to join the effort by bush to contain the iranian nuke program when it was in its infancy

    A nuclear arms race in the Middle East betwen iran and the conservative states is not in the democracies best interest

    And that applies even moreso to north korea which is so close to our enemy red china

    But short-sighted liberals failed to understand that
     
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    You say that to him not realizing that the only reason you care about White House turnover is because your media masters manufactured the hype and told you to care.

    For the rest of us, we expect this from Trump and from the people he would hire.

    If Trump doesn't think they're doing the job well, or if they think they're not serving him well, then its goodbye thanks for your service.

    But hey, make your case.

    Tell me why I should care.
     

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