Secular Democrats urge Biden to pounce on U.S. Christianity

“A Democratic political action committee representing "secular values" issued a sweeping agenda for Joe Biden to reverse many of President Trump's advances for religious liberty and "restore a vision of constitutional secularism."

The Secular Democrats of America PAC and Reps. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., and Jared Huffman, D-Calif. – members of the Congressional Freethought Caucus – were behind the 28-page document, which was issued Monday.

It would ban religious organizations from participating in government programs, support governors who want to close down churches amid the COVID pandemic, require new disclosures from churches, overturn religious-rights precedents such as the Hobby Lobby case, prevent mention of creationism in education and work for a "deradicalization" of "white Christian nationalism."”




https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/secular-democrats-urge-biden-pounce-u-s-christianity/




The secular progressive left democrats are waging war against Christianity in America. They want to destroy religious liberty and repeal the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. The secular democrats want to restrict the free expression of religious ideas and beliefs in the public square.

 

Democrats want to repeal religious liberty rights and to repeal protections for Christians to be able enjoy free exercise there of rights.

 

Don't kid yourself liberals. Progressive Liberalism is a religion.

 

you mean end faith based initiatives, start up some secular based initiatives

http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/history_of_the_separation_of_chu.htm

"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
- Benjamin Franklin: in letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780"

 

Religious liberty means the freedom to believe whatever you want, it doesn't mean a government that promotes one religion over the other

 

We're we not founded on Christian ideals and liberties?

 

nope, we are no more a Christian nation cause the majority is Christian then we are a white nation cause the majority is white

in fact we fled a theocracy and do not want one here

was Jesus ever mentioned in any of the founders documents?

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

""Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination." "

 

This is a great answer to the "Radical Christian Right" that has gone off the rails during Trump's Term.

Anything that reduces the influence of The Radical Christian Right is a positive development.

 

As is atheism.

 

Promoting one religion or belief over another was never the topic of the article. This is about secularists attacking the existing rights and liberty of believers.

 

Nor does it mean that it gets to try and over ride a persons religious Rights either.

 

Bring it, 'secularists'. Christianity thrives best in persecution. Please please please, I beg and pray- attack the 501c3 'Christian' organizations that repress and redirect the 'radical' individualism inherent in Christianity in exchange for tax breaks and political power. The masses will convert to state worship, surely!

 

I agree, but it also doesn't mean allowing businesses open to the public to descrimate against other races or religions based on their beliefs

 

The USA was founded on the ideals of Christian theocracy brought in from Europe. After all, Native Americans and Africans (slaves or freemen) didn't get much religious freedom in the early days of the USA. Thankfully, both the USA and Europe moved on from that.

 

Political correctness knows few bounds and the left has gone bonkers. That said - the religious right is bonkers too.. and part of this bonker narrative is revealed in your post.

"Constitutional Secularism" huh ? Did you wish Theocracy ? This whole business treating "Secularism" as a dirty word is right off the turnip truck ... a complete anathema to the founding principles and the principles of republicanism.

 

No problem with creationism being mentioned in myths and fairy stories in education, its the idea it could be taught as science that is scary!.

 

Religious people don't have any religious right to persecute others who disagree either, and that's even if their religion says persecution is a religious duty.

 

Complete bullshit.
Biden respects religion a lot more than trump ever did.
He won’t try to promote hatred like your obese orange dotard.

 

or simply that it would be taught as something other than demonstrable fiction.

 

Creationism should have no place in our education system whatsoever. Leave that stuff in the home and the churches.

 

If you're using the true meaning of the word you would be correct, no one has a right to harass someone. In fact there are laws against it. If however you are talking about simply saying hateful words (ex: god will damn you for being gay) then yes, they do have a right to do so. That falls under Free Speech Rights though, not religious rights.

 

Nor does it mean that the government can force businesses to give birth control as part of their insurance plan if their religion is interpreted as being against such.

 

Let's play Devils Advocate: Why? It has as much validity as the big bang theory. No one knows for sure how the universe got started. Its all just speculation. Or are you against the big bang theory being taught also? I could get down with that. No theories taught no matter what. Big Bang, Creationism, doesn't matter. Only provable facts taught.

 

Poor choice of words there. Where is this "demonstrable" evidence that you have?

 

Lol...that sounds like religious hypocrisy and bigotry, which is now par for the course with the religious right after becoming trump’s willing enablers.