Well the past few years of "The Great Awokening" seems to show that racism is more important than ever, and no, they never want it to go away.
My daughter was telling me that she rarely ever sees black students on her college campus, because there's a black dormitory, and a black student union, and the blacks basically self-segregate by choice. That sort of thing used to be called racism, but now it's apparently called empowerment. Different label, same difference.
So you admit you got nothin' to back up the statement "wanting a University or any state supported entity to finance and enforce a racially exclusive facility" is derived from your OP. A non sequitur. Who is saying that? I fail to make sense of that post. Are you saying there are not diverse ethnicities living in the UK? Skin color is not the issue. Africans, African Americans and Caribbeans may have the same skin color but are different ethnicities. Are you saying there should not be ethnic groups/organizations/clubs? Why? .
I'm saying Sub-Saharan Africans in the UK (etc) are not a 'separate culture'. They've long since assimilated socially (ie, no difference in accent, vocabulary, habits, diet, etc - and mixing freely with all races), while retaining some cultural habits in the home. It CAN be done, and is clearly much better for all in terms of racism - so why isn't it happening in America? I can't see any advantage to institutionalised segregration where there isn't even so much as a language barrier. You guys are all Americans, born to parents who were American born (and so on). There is literally no difference in your culture, so what purpose can it serve? "Organisations" for different cultural groups are almost always predicated on much more recent migration .. and are built around distinct differences like language, diet, habits, history etc. In those cases it makes sense, but in yours it makes none. All it does is increase division.
So you are saying the Pakistanis, the Romany, the Irish, etc. are not different ethnicities in the UK.....whatever you say......but In the US people tend to cherish their ethnicity. There is the Latvian Club about a block from the Jewish community center in my city, neither based on new arrivals. I've had a good time at both places and yet I belong to neither community. If I were prejudiced I might condemn them as divisive institutions.
I don't think it's a "who," I just think there are social forces that started to meet a couple of years ago that radically shifted US politics to the the left, specifically to the identity politics left. A good primer from Vox is here: The Great Awokening But it's why ideas like racially segregated student housing, which would have been considered absurdly racist and regressive just a few years ago are now the height of woke enlightenment. Strange times we live in.
The makeup of towns change with the generations. It's nothing new, and not the 'fault' of public transportation. Chelsea used to be predominantly Jewish Fall River used to be French Canadian Medford used to be almost all Italian Now Framingham is heavily Brazilian Lexington is rapidly becoming mostly Chinese Massachusetts cities and towns are traditionally and historically protean. Deal with it.
You literally had to completely alter what I said to muster even this feeble response. Sad. I very specifically addressed ONLY people of Sub-Saharan African descent.
Very strange indeed. It's as though the 1960's never happened, and we're in a post-modern 1950's. If hoods and robes (of any colour) start appearing in corn fields at night, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Speaking of sad..... Maybe I could have listed Al-Hasaniya Moroccan Women’s Centre, Arab Britain Club, Bahrain Society, British Egyptian Society....Young Anglo Jordanian Society. I skipped a few, but you get the point. All divisive institutions?
There is a similar habit - minus dorms - at my kids' university, but it's primarily for reasons of langauage (most lacking strong English skills). That actually makes sense. American born Americans, segregating from other American born Americans purely according to skin tone, is outrageous. Have they learned nothing?
Not one is a Sub-Saharan African group, and none are predicated upon nothing more than skin tone. You have some explaining to do. Why would a group who's experienced the awful reality of racism, wish to bring it back?
You are quite right. My mistake. There are organizations like West London Somoliland Community, LBS Africa Club or the Africa Center but the important social communities, like in the states, are the churches. Do you have similar problems with Chinese Americans, Mexican Americans, etc. wanting to be with others of their culture on occasion? You are taking something people take pleasure in and that does not harm the rest of society and making it evil in your mind. African Americans are well aware of white culture, they live in it and cannot segregate themselves from it. If you are willing to be open to their culture they will invite you in.
Again ... migrants (and their immediate families) forming groups predicated on a shared foreign culture and language, is completely different. What you are advocating for has nothing to do with culture or language .. it's entirely predicated on 'skin'.
You seem to have a preoccupation with "skin". As I have pointed out there are many cultures with black skin as well as brown, white and so on, all different and precious to their people. You seem to think that is a negative but I think that is spice to life. You seem to want homogenization of society which is a bland colorless world that sounds a bit dystopian.
I support voluntary segregation for whites, blacks, anyone. So long as no one is forced or coerced 'out.'
Not once a group has been sharing a language and culture for many generations. There is literally no difference but skin. And reducing it to skin is exactly what the racists of last century did. Go nuts at home, but don't be injecting your skin-based separatism into society. Meantime, LOL at your homogenisation comment. If you could see how unwhite my household is and 'behaves', your wig would spin.
You are right, learning about diverse cultures and ethnicities is interesting. African-American is not just a color, it's an ethnicity.
And it continues... SUNY Geneseo announces new dorm 'for Students of Color' The State University at New York Geneseo has announced their newest addition the school’s Umoja House, a dorm "for students of color." The Umoja House Living Learning Community will open for the Fall 2021 semester. According to the Geneseo Umoja page, those living in the dorm will "support" students of color on campus by planning and hosting events, and will "examine the impact of social justice leaders and movements on current events." I'm curious if there is an outright ban of white people entering the dorm or simply that they can't live there?
Indeed. There are some white supremacist groups may not have liked what I said but I don't care what they think. I just do not like the laws of Jim Crow and I also don't like Apartheid.
