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  1. Mr_Truth

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    As always right wing revisionists continue to subscribe to their warped views of history. Already we are seeing claims by them that Obama created ISIS just like they claim Clinton did the same with al-Qaeda. This even though we all know it was their Republican heroes who did it.

    Continue to live in your fantasy worlds. And just wait until conscription is revised so that so many innocent youths get all screwed up by the system Soon enough you will blaming Dems and liberals for that as well.
     
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    Good luck with that claim at me. I am highly neutral when it comes to almost everything, and consider truth above all else (even partisan politics).

    Now as for your claim, that is both true and false, primarily semantics and spin.

    Did Presidents Clinton and Obama actually "create" those organizations? Of course not, that is an absurd claim (especially since President Clinton was still Governor of Arkansas when al-Qaeda was founded). However, it is a valid claim that they enabled those organizations to expand and thrive unchecked by their refusal to deal with them in a timely manner. Both could have crushed or curtailed them early on, and neither one took action until it was to late.
     
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    What goes on overseas is none of the USA's go.dda.mn business.

    If Bush hadn't launched his two wars of imperialistic terrorism in the Middle East, ISIS would be a non-entity today. And as we all know, it was Republican hero Reagan who enabled what became al-Qaeda by calling them the "moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers". It's just too bad that right wingers aren't honest enough to admit to the truth that it is their party that has caused all this mess.
     
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    Yea, we would instead have the Ba'ath Party still slaughtering tens of thousands of people and terrorizing their own citizens and starving them as the leaders lived in luxury.

    Or have you completely forgotten the palaces with gold bathtubs and warehouses full of currency as the people were starving?

    Or the mass graves? Most estimates are in the range of 300,000+ people killed over a 20 year period by the Saddam regime, including outright genocide against the Kurds.

    So obviously you were completely fine with that, and would have no problems if it was continuing to this day, right? Of course, I am also not even mentioning things like intentionally targeting and attacking UN aircraft enforcing the UN mandated No Fly Zone, or the attempt to assassinate a foreign head of state by Iraq.

    Or Afghanistan, which was not much better. Where most laws had a simple response, execution by stoning. And trial was not by law, but by a cleric who had already determined what was to be done and that a person was guilty, they were just going through the motions.

    So apparently, you as an enlightened liberal has absolutely no problem with a government entirely run by the clergy. No real laws other then religious, no tolerance for any outside influences like science, where a small cabal of religious fanatics make all of the decisions.

    You know, I for one do not really give a fig about politics. But the more and more I hear the "left wingers" who rant constantly about "right wingers", the more I am convinced those individuals are completely insane. They willingly ignore so many things, and claim they are telling the truth.

    So tell me Mr. Truth, would you be happy with 500,000 being killed by Saddam, and the UN constantly being ignored for another 15 years? Because that is what you seem to prefer because it is what would have happened if he had remained in power.

    And BTW, are you even aware that ISIS (like the Ba'ath Party) are extremist organizations which promote the Suni doctrines? Both groups use power and fear and executions to maintain control and order.
     
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    You just didn't lose me but you been drinking the cultural-marxist revisionist history kool-aid.

    Exactly what are these two wars in the "Middle East" are you referring too ? That's where you lost me.

    If you are referring to Afghanistan...Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East but Asia.

    Re: Reagan.

    It was a Democrat liberal Congressman who was behind arming the Mujahideen.

    If you haven't read the book, at least watch the movie, one of the few times the Hollywood left historically got it right.

     
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    That's what Thomas Jefferson thought as well. He admitted he was wrong when he sent the U.S. Navy after the Barbary (aka Muslim) pirates.
     
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    That might have something to do with the Barbary Pirates having attacked us first.
     
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    By contrast, not one Iraqi or Afghani attacked the USA.
     
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    The Afghan Taliban sheltered and aided Osama Bin Laden.
     
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    The Taliban are like progressives and liberal Democrats in America who established sanctuary cities to harbour and protect illegal alien criminals.

    The Taliban provided sanctuary villages and cities in Afghanistan for Al Qaeda.
     
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    If you seriously think that's an accurate comparison, you are too ****ing ignorant to comment on this topic.
     
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    Is Obama a progressive leftist ?

    Did Obama issue PC rules of engagement that favored the Taliban ?
     
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    If you think the Taliban are "like Progressives" (they are rabid social conservatives like your pal Pence) or their work with AQ was "like a sactuary city" (the Taliban provided weapons, money, recruits, and training to AQ, not just shelter), then you know ****-all about the Taliban and your opinions can be chalked up to just another "grandpa's drunk in front of the keyboard again" moment.
     
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    With the attack on Syria,it proves we need more troops in the field!Every American should be required to serve the nation.So for all the slackers that lay on their behinds, it s time for you to do your part! Two years is not an eternity! Let the world know we love our nation!
     
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    Feel free to volunteer.
     
  16. Mr_Truth

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    Taliban/Al Qaeda = friends of Reagan


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    just like McCain and ISIS = as always, Republicans are friends with America's enemies
     
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    Please present the "proof" you are referring to.

    As Trump said in 2013, what goes in Syria is of no consequence to the USA.


    Do your part?? What part is that???
     
  18. APACHERAT

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    There were no Taliban or Al Qaeda in 1983.

    Just another cultural-marxist attempt of revisionist history.

    FYI:
    The photo above is another leftist attempt of revisionist history, the photo was taken in 1983 not 1985.



    To be historically correct, it was actually a liberal Democrat who was behind arming the "Mujahadin."

     
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    No thanks. We don't need a bunch of lazy snowflakes. We'll continue to keep taking volunteers who want to fight.
     
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    Which once again shows you have no idea what the Truth is.

    The Taliban was not even formed until 1994, when the President was Clinton.

    That is a 1985 picture with members of the Mujahideen. Many of which went on to become founders of the Northern Alliance. You know, the guys who were in a death fight with the Taliban.

    Sheesh, you really do like to make your handle in here a lie.
     
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    Sorry buddy but you got it all wrong. Do some homework and you will learn the TRUTH.
     
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    You aren't going to learn the truth on the internet, that's for sure.

    Now I hate using a liberal bias source who has a credibility problem big time. But liberals get a big hard-on with Snopes.

     
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    We need the draft to bring moderation and exiting endless
    Not At War, Wars.
    I mean Osama bin Ladin is still dead. Saddam Hussain too. Yet :flagus: remains.

    It was the draft that finally pushed the silent majority into demanding
    an exit from Vietnam. Middle America had to bleed or know some family who did.
    Today the insulation is too thick without the draft.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No Canada-1.png
    Stop Creeping :flagcanada:ism
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us
    .
     
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    we have no ready reserves....
     
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    Except for, you know, the RESERVES and NATIONAL GUARD...

    But who counts them anyways?
     

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