SEN. TOM COTTON: war with Iran would be just ‘two strikes’

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  1. notme

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    John Bolton said in 2017 on a "Free Iran" summit, in a room with 1000's of mujaheddin supporters who are for violently overthrowing the Iranian government, that he would be celebrating with them in Tehran before 2019.

    And that Bolton,... is the man who, with the fake news about Iraq, is behind the idea to bomb it to the stone age.
    And he is behind the idea that the US is sending 100.000's of troops more to the middle east towards Iran right now.


    So yeah. The US is totally committed for a regime change.
     
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    Most of the Iranian population is under 30 and fed up with the old timers.
    A regime change would be good only if they could separate that stupid azz religion from the mix.
     
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    we could not afford to stay their forever
     
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    Coupla issues. Ejecting Iraqis from ANOTHER country, is NOT the same as attacking THEIR home.

    First Iraq war, we BLINDED them almost immediately, and had FREE reign, for the duration. All they had was spray into the air.

    That will NOT happen again.
     
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    Just blow up their infrastructure, nuke sites, docks, main political buildings,,etc.

    and don't bother going in.
    Let them figure out if they want to join the real world.
     
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    It gets very tiresome trying to reason with liberals both foreign and domestic who want to blame all the worlds problems on Ametica

    For all our missteps the world would be a far worse place without America over the past 70 years
     
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    that is what we should of done to Afghanistan, just a aerial strike and then back out, Iraq never should of been a war
     
  8. Grau

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    Re:
    You're exactly right only the whole world knows that any US attack on Iran is just another war for Israel.

    After all, it was AIPAC & false Israeli intelligence that helped drive the US to war with Iraq (1) & Netanyahu's puppet,(2) Trump, has surrounded himself with Israeli owned and operated war mongers, Bolton & Pompeo.

    The notion that the Iranian people would see America as "liberators" from the mullahs by bombing their homes & killing their friends & families is absolutely moronic.




    (1) "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."
    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr
    New York Sun in January 2003
    https://www.sott.net/article/158160-And-the-winner-is-the-Israel-lobby


    (2) "How Netanyahu Pulls Trump’s Strings"
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/15/how-netanyahu-pulls-trumps-strings/

    EXCERPTS "Since Sept. 18, when the two men met in New York around the United Nations General Assembly, Netanyahu has been pulling Trump’s strings on almost every foreign policy issue.

    Trump further showed that he is following Netanyahu’s marching orders with the extremist speech about Iran on Friday, essentially repeating all the Israeli propaganda lines against Iran and burning whatever bridges remained toward a meaningful diplomatic approach.

    Although dressing up his capitulation to Netanyahu in tough-guy phrasing, Trump is doing what most U.S. politicians do – they grovel before Bibi Netanyahu."CONTINUED
     
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    LOL

    No, you are the only one privy to that information.
     
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    When those pallets of money got to Iran they were then able to purchase weapons for and fund further military adventures in the region. Iran never stopped funding and training terrorists. They never will. Trump tore up a deal we never should have made in the first place.
    Iran agreed to a delay, not to abandon the quest. Verification also proved to be elusive since, like Saddam, there was no inspection on demand. Inspectors were allowed to look at what they were allowed to look at. It was never a good deal for the US but it isn't hard to understand why the EU would want sanctions lifted, gas or petrol as it would be called.
     
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    Not quite.

    Trump has made it clear that the only reason loyal Americans are dying and sacrificing $ Billions if not $ Trillions in the Mid East is " for Israel":

    "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997

    Meanwhile, America's infestation of disloyal "Israel Firsters" are frantically pushing for loyal Americans to die fighting to ensure Israel's regional hegemony:


    1. "America Cannot Go to War for Israel"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ahmed-moor/america-cannot-go-to-war-_b_682467.html

    2. "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Leads US President Trump to War with Iran"
    https://www.unz.com/jpetras/israeli...hu-leads-us-president-trump-to-war-with-iran/

    3. "Lobbyist Says Israel Should Create A 'False Flag' To Start A War With Iran"
    https://www.businessinsider.com/top...-with-iran-sink-sub-illicit-false-flag-2012-9


    4. "Neocon Pundit: The Israel Lobby Wants War With Iran"
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/neocon-pundit-the-israel-lobby-wants-war-with-iran

    5. "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

    6. "Do Americans Want to Die for Israel?"
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/do-americans-want-to-die-for-israel/
     
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    American Cipher: Bowe Bergdahl and the U.S. Tragedy in Afghanistan

    Matt Farwell and Michael Ames explain why we area still wasting blood and treasure

    "Anybody remember the Powell Doctrine? It defined policies to avoid entangling the United States in another military disaster like Vietnam. In a nutshell, the Powell Doctrine (which should also be credited to former Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger) argued the U.S. should only go to war if it had the support of the American people, had exhausted peaceful alternatives, protected a vital national security interest, analyzed the risks honestly, and set a clear, attainable objective with a realistic exit strategy to avoid eternal entanglement."

    Those pallets of money were Iran's and ordered returned by the International Court.

    Trump, should he order war, should immediately be arrested and turned over to Congress for disposition.
     
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    Is John Bolton "the US?"
     
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    It should be Israel and Saudi Arabia doing all that work, really. They're the ones with some silly blood feud with Iran. We in the US should not be involved at all.
     
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    Israel should not get involved, but Saudi should.
     
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    And he's not privy to all of US intelligence.
     
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    Nukes in Iran's hands in a death note to the rest of the world.

    The "Twelvers" need to bring in Armageddon so the 12th Iman, Ali can take over and there will be peace.

    Don't ask me, I didn't write the stupid azz religion.
     
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    Well you beak it you bought it whether you can afford it or not.

    We can argue the merits of getting involved but once you go in you are morally obligated to stay til its stable
     
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    we never should of been there to start with, why should we be nation-building Iraq when we need to do some nation-building at home

    the two 10+ Bush wars have hurt this country more then the 911 terrorist could of ever hoped for
     
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    Your english is slipping.
     
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    I am making a comment of my own, and could care less if you like or not my format.
    :) ^^^
     
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    He combines the US "defense", intelligence with the US international policies. That's his job. So he is the man behind why there are 100.000's of more troops at the border of Iran. He was the man behind the lies and the war against Iraq. Just like he is the man behind the pointless war against the Taliban who did nothing against the US. And the guy was a chairman of a known islamophobic institute spreading fake news, as in claiming Europe had "no-go zones" where supposedly Muslims ruled with their sharia law.
     
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    Yeah, the Taliban always was a good thing.
     
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    I don't see a war coming.

    But if there was a war, it would take 30 minutes.
     

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