SEN. TOM COTTON: war with Iran would be just ‘two strikes’

Where did you learn history or Geography! Russia is part of Europe! And when did China invade Europe?

What about Cuba? Did the USSR or China bomb Cuba or any South American countries?

And now you're running away from the atrocities carried out by US soldiers on the civilians of Viet Nam. "US politicians tied the hands of our fighter"! Your soldiers raped children and burnt whole villages 8000 miles away from the US in the quest for "democracy".

Which bit of "communism and democracy have equal culpability on mass deaths" did you not understand?

 

Really? And what statements would those be? I do appreciated the direct conversation we are having although I'm not sure why you changed your format for me?

 

When Johson decided to escalate the war in Vietnam, which IMO was a bad decision considering Uncle Ho loved America, he should have started a bombing campaign against Hanoi and taken out the leadership. The CIA and Johnson administration underestimated the will of the Vietnamese who were against French and then American occupation.

 

US has stopped sending its carriers to Persian Gulf:

https://ifpnews.com/exclusive/us-carrier-stops-moving-towards-persian-gulf-military-source/

 

Because you had a hissy. Now you are having another one. So I am being kind to you.

 

Russia invaded all ofceastern Europe and kept them as subject states. Czechoslovakia Poland hell even half of Germany.

I did not say China invaded Europe they did however invade Korea after we freed it and caused all the problems we have on that peninsula today. They also funded and supplies the gorilla armies that invaded throughout southeast asia because they wanted to destroy freedom.
I am not running from the atrocities there were some. Not nearly the atrocities of the communists.

Cuba and south America no the USSR did not bomb them. The USSR prompted coups and rebellions in order to estsblish communist foot holds in the western hemisphere with which to threaten the USA.

Communism and democracy on equal footing? Not even close! Stalin alone has killed more than all democrcys combine.

Hell he killed 10 million just through the incompetence of pf collectivization.
In Vietnam the high end of vietnamese civilians deaths is 2 million on both sides combined. That's not just atrocities thats all deaths. I don't know if that includes the tens of thousands they murdered in uncle ho's land reforms.



In other words youre full of it.

 

The war with iraq was pretty much a cake walk. The nation building attempt after that was the slog and we won't make that mistake again if we are forced to destroy Iran.

 

Iran will lose, period. The only question is how it is going to lose. And as I noted,... they have the power to blow up much of Israel,... simply because Israel aint that big to begin with. Look at the freaking last Hamas-Israel thing. Was it 600 missiles shot at Israel? It was something like that. Israel would be wiped of the face of the earth when Iran shoots 600 of their missiles at it. Are you even aware that Iran has practiced their missiles against ISIS in Syria? That's right next door to Israel.

 

If Iran were to obliterate Israel, the Israeli counter-attack before the state would obliterate probably Istanbul, certainly Damascus, Teheran, Mecca, Medina, and other Islamic places.

 

It had an effect when Nixon started using it in the right places.

 

They don't. From an Iranian friend that is now a citizen. At least the President is not for going to war with Iran but the usual war mongers are speaking out. One wonders what would happen if the war monger Hillary were President. That is why she lost her first try in primaries. Too war like for liberals.

 

Re:

If I recall correctly, Hamas has very few projectiles that would be called "missiles". They're simply crude rockets and nothing as sophisticated as a cruise missile.

Also, Israel grossly inflates the number of rockets fired by Hamas just as they inflate the damage they do(1) so that they can attempt to justify the collective punishment they inflict on the world's only US subsidized open air prison.

For all the tough talk about turning Iran into a "parking lot" etc, there will be no winners if Israel's war mongers & America's traitorous Ziono-Cons (Bolton, Pompeo etc) succeed in provoking a war with Iran.



(1) "Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks"
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks/

 

You have no clue. What bit don't you get from the statement "At least Russia and China stayed local unlike the US who interfere with countries 12000 miles away."

The "USSR prompted coups", the US bombed Nicagua, Chile, Cuba, Guatemala, China, Viet Nam, Korea, Congo, Laos, Guatemala (again), Grenada, Guatemala (again), El Salvador, Panama and Cambodia and many more

 

Could you please be a little more specific?
I was in Laos, possibly the most heavily bombed country in history where UXOs (unexploded ordinances) continue to kill farmers & children.
For all the bombing done, we were unimpressed with its effect on the war effort.

 

Because interdiction doesn't work. We should have bombed more in the North where the supplies were concentrated.
We should have made the harbors unusable along with the rail lines out of China.
We should have made it clear to the Russians and Chinese that we would not allow them to supply the north vietnamese.

 

What gives you the idea that it's wrong to attack communists trying to dominate the world?

 

You're splitting peas and missing the point that whatever Hamas can do to Israel,... will be nothing what Iran can do to Israel.

 

And the reason the US did not do that was that it did not want war with the Russians and Chinese.

 

What gives you the idea that it's wrong to attack capitalists trying to dominate the world?

 

Still waiting for proof from the IAEA which confirms the myth that Iran has violated international rules on nuke development.

 

I didn't mean to contradict you & was only clarifying the difference between rockets & missiles.
Yes, Israel would be destroyed in a war with Iran but Iran, too, would also face near total destruction from Israel's nuclear armed submarines and land based nukes.

Israel, however, is far more interested in manipulating the US into a war with Iran and sacrificing American lives in a war with a country that poses no threat to the US.

They've manipulated the US into fighting Iraq & even more openly pushing America to war with Iran:

"List of 17 Zionist Jewish Organizations Pushing USA Into War With Iran"
https://ronabbass.wordpress.com/201...organizations-pushing-usa-into-war-with-iran/

EXCERPT "Israeli Journalist Larry Derfner writing on the +971 Israeli website, states that Israel and its lobby in the U.S. “have been leading the charge” for an American war against Iran for years “and they’re hardly hiding it.” Derfner writes:

“If America ends up bombing Iran first (unlikely), or being drawn into a war as a result of Israel’s bombing Iran first (much more likely), that American war will be stamped “Made In Israel”… by everyone with eyes and ears in his or her head.”

Derfner goes on to state that the U.S. military establishment doesn’t want to fight in Iran, but “Israel and AIPAC have been dragging them toward it with all their might.”CONTINUED

 

Yes, what you proposed may have worked except for Chinese & Russian opposition but war with Iran is insane and primarily driven by Israel's war mongering element and America's traitorous Ziono-Cons (Bolton Pompeo etc).

It would have been in America's best long term interests to have adhered to the Nuclear Deal and worked to improve relations with Iran rather than let Israeli lobbies, Christian Zionists & Ziono-Cons dictate US Mid East Policy.

Iran has repeatedly tried to improve relations with the US but those same war mongering Zionists won't let America reciprocate.

"Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/

 

He's not had proper lies told to him in other words. I've not trusted US Intelligence in this area since they found all those WMD that weren't there. It seem strange that America would put all its Islamophobes into the most aggressively Islamic countries but they do.

 

The Taliban refused to turn over bin Laden after 9/11. They may have been within their rights under International Law but it was a clear violation of acceptable protocols given the circumstances and a legitimate casus belli according to most International Councils. That being said I agree that Bolton is a known Islamophobe and I am l glad to see that even Trump may be finding him a tad exterme

 

OTOH they don't believe they can pollute the Earth all they want because they're all about to wafted up to Heaven momentarily either.

Pakistan is about as aggressively Islamic as you can get and they have nukes. Why haven't they killed is all?