Sept. 11 marks tragedy beyond terrorist attacks of 16 years ago

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  1. SeaFury

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    The saddest day.

    The day of the worst false flag, inside job on unknowing Americans.

    This was a setup from top to bottom and anyone with half a brain knows this.

    I was outside the pentagram when the missile hit. It was not a passenger airliner. Within 30 seconds blacked out special units went into and grabbed every nearby camera footage. While the emergency response was just starting, this was their priority.

    The finally released footage shows blurred out cruise missile, no airplane. No plane parts were left, and the debris field was tiny compared to any commercial plane crash in history.

    I wept for the Republic and for Freedom that day, as both had been shown to be lost.

    You have been deceived.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or, opinions are like armpits, everyone has a couple and they usually stink.
     
  3. One Mind

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    Opinions based upon a plethora of incoherences are more believable than those opinions which choose, yes choose to ignore incoherence. I really have no clue as to the truth. But incoherence does not let my mind accept the official story . And the official story, like an unwashed armpit stinks to high heaven. And it smells like tin foil hat thinking. The official story is more apt to be tin foil hat thinking given the incoherence involved. But this incoherence cannot be simply discarded and yet that is what the believers in the official story must do. I can only discard the incoherence by saying allah did it. For he apparently can do anything.

    I am more concerned about minds which can so easily discard incoherence than those that cannot. For those minds which can discard it, will tend to do so in the future. If we ever see such incoherence again. Well we have seen incoherence but no need to open that can of worms. But these same minds, perhaps, also discard this incoherence. I think these examples may be a true means test that shows us how many critical thinking minds we have and how many we do not have. Yet I do not think a critical thinker would come up with some of these theories you see in the Truther crowd. It is one thing to say the incoherence involved in 911 means the official story is not kosher, and quite another to come up with some of these theories offered up, like holograms and such. But operation Mockingbird is evidence that conspiracies have existed and if not for JFK may have well went forward to get into war with Castro. We were gonna blow up a drone airliner, say it was filled with americans, and blame in on Cuba. And this would have never been known about for all paperwork was destroyed except one...single....report. Found by accident. So never say the we have never planned conspiracies. History will slap you hard. But like incoherence, one can choose to ignore that too. Ignorance can give a kind of bliss.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, because universities like MIT have no clue.
     
  5. Bob0627

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    The University of Alaska at Fairbanks has and is conducting extensive research and analysis on NIST's published theory. Do you have a link to what MIT has done on that subject? I would be interested to research the details of their conclusions myself to see if their conclusions are the same or different. Thanks.
     
  6. HereWeGoAgain

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    Same bs just a different day,

    I watched an interview with the head engineer for those buildings. They were a unique design and collapsed almost exactly on cue according to the design. They didn't have a classic superstructure because the buildings wouldn't be able to support their own weight. The lightweight design made them vulnerable to the high temperatures.

    I wish people would get a freaking life and stop with this mind-numbing nonsense.

    As for the so-called mystery of the plane disintegrating when it hit the Pentagon, that happens in aircraft crashes. I remember one that crashed in California a few decades ago that did exactly the same thing. It hit the ground at full speed in a nose dive. People on the scene said they hardly found a scrap more than two inches square.

    This kind of bs is killing the country. It is making Americans stupid. If you're not an engineer, you have no business having an opinion. Stop pretending to be an expert at anything you can read in ten minutes. And don't be made a fool by every crackpot on the internet.
     
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  7. Bob0627

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    Yeah I know.

    If that were true the designers should be charged with the involuntary manslaughter of 3,000 people. I heard quite the opposite from the designers. That each floor was built to hold up several times its weight and the core built to hold up at least 2 or 3 times the weight of the buildings. Collapse almost exactly on cue? But no one was alerted that the buildings were designed and built to collapse on cue?

    So why are you posting this utter garbage?

    Are you an engineer? Since when does anyone have to be an engineer to post an opinion? Yet an engineer, a forensics expert on building collapses, among other relevant disciplines, did his homework and found that the official story on the "collapse" of WTC7 is absolutely false.

     
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  8. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. I'll give you a video.

    So, given you pushed a crazy story about how skyscrapers can't collapse from fire, and given how your claim is obviously wrong, why shouldn't everyone correctly assume that all of your other claims are just as phony and wrong?

    That's what people do believe. Credibility lost is tough to regain, and you've lost yours.

     
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  10. Destroyer of illusions

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    You have a significant increase in rape in Germany. If you do not believe it, ask the police for example Leipzig.
     
  11. Destroyer of illusions

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    Are you sure that this skyscraper collapsed from the fire? Or were there other reasons? Fire is only a concomitant factor.
     
  12. Bob0627

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    That it collapsed from fire alone is disputed by experts. Regardless, there have been 40+ steel frame high rise fires prior to and after 9/11, several of which were true infernos affecting almost the entirety of the building and some lasting much longer than any of the 3 WTC towers, certainly the twin towers and none collapsed in their entirety in a matter of seconds. The North Tower fire of 1973 affected 9 floors and caused no structural damage.
     

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