"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

Discussion in '9/11' started by Brother Jonathan, Dec 29, 2013.

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The creators of these you tube videos offer no proof only an assertion that the craft which hit the pentagon was too small to be a 757.

    They ignore the physical remains of the aircraft recovered from the scene proving it was a 757.

    This is why your films are not evidence and never provide evidence.

    The entire truther movement is nothing but a few people making assertions with no evidence and then they lie about having evidence as you have done.

    The video proves nothing they offer no proof or evidence that is simple fact.
     
  2. Scott

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    The video didn't deal with that issue. The video dealt with the issue of footage having been doctored. I presented this proof that the craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm
    (5th picture from top)

    We've talked about this before. They had control over the whole area.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9632&st=0&start=0

    Those plane parts were plantable so they're not proof as they may have been planted.
     
  3. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  5. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sure those that murdered the 3000 Americans and got away with it up to this point are laughing out loud just like you and your little icons...But, everyone eventually pays the price for their actions and intentions. We'll just have to wait and see who's laughing when the smokescreen is cleared and the truth is revealed. 12 years is a very short period of time in the grand scheme of things champ.
     
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    Brother, for all intents and purposes you can consider me to be on your side, because 9/11 was very probably the most patent example of a false flag attack in the recorded history of humanity. That said, I do not think your website is correct in the assertion that it was not flight 77 which hit the Pentagon. Its very initial premise is flawed because how can it prove the length of a plane which isn't there anymore? It can't even accurately measure the impact zone because it isn't here anymore either. From what I can gather it is measuring the visible explosion against the length of a 747 and that's flawed methodology because the explosion wasn't limited to the length of the plane.

    If you're going to contend that it wasn't flight 77 which hit the Pentagon then you've got some extremely difficult questions to answer. They don't necessarily prove you incorrect, but they do point out that the argument forces the lowest common denominator in terms of a rational explanation to become considerably more complicated. For example, what happened to flight 77 if it did not hit the Pentagon? Why go to the trouble of hijacking it in the first place? Planes visibly hit the WTC, so why change things up for the Pentagon attack? What would the motive be in risking exposure through a missile attack when they could stick with the terrorist theme and use a plane? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    Plus, there are about a dozen eye-witnesses who are on record saying they saw a plane. Not necessarily a 757, but a plane nevertheless.
     
  7. Hannibal

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    Over a hundred, actually.
     
  8. Hannibal

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    Such scary talk. I'm all a quiver.

    Oh, wait - I don't live my life in fear of the boogie man. I'm not a 'truther'.
     
  9. Quantumhead

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    Also, Norman Mineta's testimony proves that there was a hijacked aircraft speeding toward the Pentagon, that Cheney knew about it, knew what had happened at the WTC buildings, and that he purposefully ordered the air force not to engage it. Initially, Mineta believed Cheney had issued the reverse order (shootdown), but that is not logically consistent with his statement to the 9/11 Commission about the events leading up to the impact. Or the fate of flight 77.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I'm not afraid of phantom swarthy Arabic looking men lurking around every corner with box cutters, vowing to destroy us because they hate our freedom. I am however, in favor of the truth being revealed. In my opinion, with all we know to be true from history, conspiratorial behavior among the elites and their minions is the rule rather than the exception, and they don't mind committing mass murder in the process.

    Here's a question: Would a group of powerful criminals kill 3000 people in order to make trillions of dollars and gain tighter control of the world oil supply? My answer is a resounding YES!! When you look beneath the thin veneer of this 'War on Terror' crap, you get a pretty good idea of who was behind the false flag attacks, and why they did it. Thanks for playing.
     
  11. Hannibal

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    Me either.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  12. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you really believe that a pack of whiskey drinking, coke snorting, ho chasing Muslim fundamentalists caused the carnage on 911 with no inside help, you better hide under your bed, because if that's possible, we're all (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
     
  13. Hannibal

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    No, that's not what I believe. Thanks for the chuckle, though.
    You have some nutty ideas about the hijackers.
     
  14. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Amen. It took what? 50 years to acknowledge a rat with the JFK thing? Oh, that's right...it's still "officially" a lone nut gunman. Forgot.

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    Mention Minetta, and the specialists go rapid fire with insults. It makes them uncomfortable.
     
  15. Hannibal

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    The rat was Lee Harvey Oswald.
     
  16. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    "Officially"...yes, I know.
     
  17. Hannibal

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    Of course you do, every sane person does.
     
  18. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    "Officially", all kinds of black ops never occurred...'officially'. Again..I know.
     
  19. Brother Jonathan

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  20. Hannibal

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    In reality. Of course you know, we get it.

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    Going on 7 years from that link ... when are those indictments going to be issued?
     
  21. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    <yawn>

    "Officially", nothing bad ever happens. We all get it.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    Wrong again, Fraud. Bad stuff happens all the time. It's just not the 'boogie man' that 'truthers' try to pretend it is.
     
  23. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh that "news media actor" that had the whole thing figured out 10 minutes after the collapse.

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    yeh fraud its the boogie man the government says it is!

    muslims!
     
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    Yes, it's ALWAYS whatever is claimed "officially". Benghazi, Iraq...wherever, and whatever.
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Did you get straw for Christmas? You're building a LOT of strawmen. :roflol:

    Don't miss your flight, now.
     

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