Serious question -- what do Trump supporters think the citizenship question was supposed to DO?

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It also exposes the lie that Repubs are inherently strict constitutionalists.

    "Article One of the Constitution explicitly put the census in the hands of Congress, not the president. It provides that the first census “shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as [the House and Senate] shall by law direct.” The Constitution also explicitly granted Congress the final say when it came to reapportioning each state’s delegation to the House and Electoral College based on the census count."
     
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    Well there is our Wednesday oxymoron LMFAO :)

    We can all take a nap now :)
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Gee! U wonder why?

    How Many Illegal Aliens are in the US?

    [​IMG]

    Damn if only we had an accurate DATABASE and some way to collect that data :(
     
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    This is an easy question. Of course we need to know who is residing in our country and their status. For such things as allocation of funds, how many legal voters, etc.. And yes it does matter how many illegal aliens are here, whether we have 11 million or 50 million or whatever the count is. Sounds like up until quite recently, there was a citizenship question on the census, and there wasn't then and isn't now anything unconstitutional about it. The better question is what is wrong with it?? Since anyone can just lie if it bothers them, it does seem like kind of a non-issue to me. But of course we have the RIGHT to know who is here.
     
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    Would you consider the current Supreme Court as "leftist"? Of course not, that would be stupid. Yet the Court sided with the Dems. That strongly suggests the Dems had a valid point.
     
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    Read it again, might help :)

    Here are a couple keynotes!
     
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    Hey, if they want to clown themselves for post count that's up to them ;)
     
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    So they get a trophy for it, or just mirror bragging rights?
     
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    Who knows what weird things they think are important.
     
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    There are people who are here legally but aren't citizens. That they aren't citizens doesn't make hem illegals.
     
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    Democrats have always demanded their slaves be counted in the census.
     
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    It's important that the census give an accurate count of how many people live in an area. Their citizenship status is unimportant. Why?
    Let's take an extreme hypothetical to demonstrate. Let's say the actual population of a city in Texas is one million, 500,000 citizens, 250,000 legal immigrants and 250,000 illegals. The city can't build roads for just the citizen number, nor schools, water supplies, nor policing. They must build for all of the people of face chaos.
    By adding a question that discourages honest responses you risk communities being under served and unprepared. And yes this question will discourage respondents because of fear that a trick to locate them for deportation. Normally I'd say their fears would be unfounded but these aren't normal times. We don't normally see teachers, rotary club members and school board members getting deported or fathers arrested while dropping off their kids at school. We do now and that's before the threatened big push.
    No, they have every right to mistrust this admin and communities will suffer for it.
     
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    Who said anything about voting?

    Are you sure you dialed the right Universe when you connected your modem?
     
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    Oh wow census advice from the DR Congo :roll:
     
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    Or maybe we could not let them in the country to overcrowd our living areas.
     
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    When ifs and buts become candy and nuts we'll all have a merry Christmas.
    I don't live in a fantasy world and the census question would do nothing to change reality.
     
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    Inaccuracy effects many thing, in this case population.. So if you cant get a fair estimate of a population from illegals that eluded any sort of tally, how do you prepare your city for that unknown.. I dunno, seem sort of stupid to me to just "NOT KNOW" ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

    Then again I'm not a leftist and never ascribed to "What I don't know wont hurt me" either :)
     
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    Well that could be debated ;) DRC the fantasy world where 10 years olds carry AK and no one knows how many insurgents there are or how many innocents they kill..

    I think countries like the DR want the U.S. to deal with census like they do :)

    [​IMG]

     
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    Bingo!!

    And why?

    "Before departing for his 202nd day in office spent at one of his golf clubs, President Donald Trump openly admitted that the reason he wants to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census is to discriminate against non-citizens by not counting them when drawing Congressional districts. This would be a major change to how legislative representation has always been calculated and a departure from what the framers of the Constitution intended."
     
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    Then you shouldn't mind if we include it. Why is it important to know what race each of us are?
     
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    LOL, what part gave you chills, the illegal or intimidate :roflol:
     
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    From my understanding, answering the question was voluntary. So it doesn't or didn't or wouldn't mean much. So a this big hullabaloo from both pro and anti Trumpers seem much ado about nothing. At least to me.
     
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    Then again a answer affirmed or denied is more accurate then none at all ;)
     
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    Not answering is the same as none at all.
    All census questions are mandatory, from what I've read.
     
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