One concept that deserves to be shot is that of "a sex object." Apparently there is something wrong with being recognized for one's body. My response is that everyone - both men and women - have bodies, and bodies are objects. I am a man, and I have a fairly good physique. I find it flattering when people appreciate my body. That is even the case with people to whom I am not attracted, such as much older women and gay men. Furthermore, there is nothing at all contradictory between being regarded sexually and other good forms of attention. It is possible to respect someone and be attracted to them at the same time. It is possible to appreciate someone both physically and mentally. In better relationships, there are both forms of attraction and appreciation. One can value the other personally and one can be attracted to them as well. Another concept - one that has some merit, but that keeps getting misapplied - is that of the sexual predator. Apparently a man with supposed psychological problems seeking a relationship with a woman is a predator, and a woman with supposed psychological problems is a victim. In fact both are in the same boat. They are both people who have been branded, rightfully or wrongfully, with psychological problems. Neither is the predator, and neither is the victim. Probably the only people who actually are sex predators are men who go after children and men who go for women who are more vulnerable than they are themselves. But if say a man with bipolar diagnosis goes after a woman with a bipolar diagnosis, there is no predation being perpetrated. One equal goes after another equal; which is exactly what is supposed to be happening in relationships. Sexuality will always exist, as will romantic attraction. The solution is to work to make such things the best experience that they can be. The first step toward that is clearing up misconceptions on the subject; and I hope that any number of others do more toward that effect. https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought
So you don't know the difference between being sexually objectified and someone admiring your good looks? I think rape is a bit extreme for this discussion to let's go within unwanted sexual advance. Would you feel objectified if a man said to you I bet you perform good fellatio? Do you consider that flattering?
I didn't ask you if it happened that's irrelevant. I asked you would you find it flattering? Is feisty a sexual thing?
So do you understand the difference between objectification and admiration? Sometime suggesting you have an appealing physique is different than somebody suggesting you are nothing more than a warm place to shove their genitals. I do recognize the terms get blurred. When people think they are objectified for their beauty.
I am saying that there is nothing contradictory between being appreciated for one's body and being appreciated for other good qualities. Yes, valuing someone only for their body can be annoying. But valuing someone for both their body and their other good traits is fine.
yet you said you might want to punch someone for observing something they see as a good quality. so if a man said that you would probably perform good fellatio and that you had nice shoes that wouldn't make you want to punch them? Why is the observation of your ability to perform good fellatio not a good quality who was the arbiter of a good quality? The person objectifying or the person being objectified and how do you decide?
The concept of “sex object” isn’t about being recognised for your body, it’s about being only recognised for your body, literally treating you as an object, ignoring any and all other human characteristics you will have. This becomes a major problem because those other characteristics include things like free will and the right to say “no”. You’re simply wrong there. Sexual predator is a gender neutral term and can refer to anyone perusing a sexual relationship with another person without consent or even despite an explicit refusal. Any causal psychological problems, indeed any other causal factors, are irrelevant to the fundamental definition of the term, they’re only relevant to how the problem should be addressed. Someone is a thief if they steal something by definition, regardless of whether they did it because they’re poor, greedy or a kleptomaniac. Well you’ll only make it worse by trying to assert entirely new meanings to long established terms and concepts. You don’t need to change any definitions to explain your opinions on specific situations and circumstances.
Unfortunately, objectification (not necessarily sexual) happens very early on in life. Adults comment on a child's appearance immediately if that child is attractive. That child will hear that, on an ongoing basis, throughout their childhood. So what they have learned about themselves is that they are 'beautiful', or 'pretty', or 'cute' or 'handsome'. Without some balanced messaging, they will learn that that's who they are. In some cases, they don't strive to develop other parts of themselves (kindness, intelligence, sense of humor, etc) because they are already hugely 'successful' in life - based upon the approving commentary from others. These people - the ones who do not strive to develop other aspects of themselves - will not consider it 'objectification' if their appearances are complimented as adults...it is the norm for them. It becomes their 'ticket'.
Capitalism is always wonderful when one has enough capital. We can always find true capital love for a market friendly price under Capitalism. some of us only get, "lies and turn missings" for free under capitalism when no capital is involved. if only, there were social love for free to be found under Capitalism.
