Sex offenders ending up homeless

Discussion in 'Human Rights' started by kazenatsu, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,254
    Likes Received:
    9,157
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    .....GOOD....
     
  2. jay runner

    jay runner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    13,238
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The first mistake is letting sex offenders, pedophiles and rapists at least, out of prison. The only exception to that would be statutory rape where the girl is a bit too young and they guy isn't much older, and they were in love -- that guy should be released after some time served.
     
  3. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,990
    Likes Received:
    1,341
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's easy to form a mob and tell each other "I hate sex offenders more than you do!". No politician every lost by getting tough on sex offenders.

    It's also a coward's tactic.

    Contrary to the BS propaganda, sex offenders are _not_ likely to re-offend, less likely than other types of criminals. Therefore, there's no reason to single them out for special persecution after their release. No reason besides brainless hysteria, that is.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2018
    Jarlaxle and BillRM like this.
  4. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    19,240
    Likes Received:
    11,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nice to see a voice of sanity out there.
     
  5. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    19,240
    Likes Received:
    11,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
  6. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    3,318
    Likes Received:
    723
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What sense does it make to have a sex offender whose only victims were adults keep away from where children are? Who are you protecting? Not the children. They aren't the target. At least a couple of states got it right. They specifically state that it must be an offender whose victim was a child, that must stay away from these area.
     
    Junkieturtle likes this.
  7. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    3,318
    Likes Received:
    723
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How about public urination? that can get you onto RSO list in many areas.
     
    Jarlaxle likes this.
  8. Liberty Monkey

    Liberty Monkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2018
    Messages:
    9,778
    Likes Received:
    13,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I'm pretty much f***** if I visit those areas then lol, been stopped in Berlin, Vilnius, Riga & Poznan for having a piss in an alley lol cheap beer what can I say. Also I'm an environmentalist so every time I piss outside I can drive my 6.6l V8 for another month (I'm a lot like Leonardo Dicaprio in my moral integrity).
     
  9. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,552
    Likes Received:
    5,361
    Trophy Points:
    113
    OP

    I have the answer where not one of them would find themselves 'homeless'.
    If you're talking about child sex offenders you couldn't be more wrong. Paedophiles are incurable - although I could cure them. In fact nothing would give me greater pleasure.
     
  10. jay runner

    jay runner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    13,238
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I wasn't aware that that kind of expulsive physiology could be more than a misdemeanor public nuisance. Thanks.
     
  11. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,990
    Likes Received:
    1,341
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Again, a myth. But you don't care. You like being part of an angry irrational mob.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90200&page=1
    ---
    Child molesters had a 13 percent reconviction rate for sexual offenses and a 37 percent reconviction rate for new, non-sex offenses over a five-year period.

    Rapists had a 19 percent reconviction rate for sexual offenses and a 46 percent reconviction rate for new, non-sexual offenses over a five year period.

    Another study found reconviction rates for child molesters to be 20 percent and for rapists to be approximately 23 percent.

    Recidivism rates for sex offenders are lower than for the general criminal population. For example, a Bureau of Justice Statistics study of 108,580 non-sex criminals released from prisons in 11 states in 1983 found that nearly 63 percent were rearrested for a non-sexual felony or serious misdemeanor within three years of their release from incarceration; 47 percent were reconvicted; and 41 percent were ultimately returned to prison or jail.
    ---

    As you're announcing how you take pleasure from thoughts of violence, you appear to be a serious threat to society.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  12. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,552
    Likes Received:
    5,361
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why are you being an apologist for child abusers? Incidentally the link you provided doesn't work; but here's one for you . . .

    "Hundreds of paedophiles reoffend while being monitored
    Nearly 1,000 registered paedophiles have committed further offences despite being monitored."

    So you see how brazen they are - that they're so (to use your word) recidivistic that they can't control themselves even when under surveillance by the authorities - which rather makes your figures above a bit suspect? So I ask again - Why are you being an apologist for child abusers and paedophiles?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...edophiles-reoffend-while-being-monitored.html
     
  13. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,990
    Likes Received:
    1,341
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You'll have to apologize for such a gutless dishonest slur if you want this conversation to continue.

    Either way, it's a big a win on my part. You wouldn't have had to resort to such cowardly sleaze if you weren't getting spanked.
     
  14. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,552
    Likes Received:
    5,361
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :rolleyes: WTF? [​IMG]
     
  15. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2012
    Messages:
    7,089
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I would argue for a burglar who is a professional burglar they might go back to burglary since its good money and they don't really hurt anyone if they are professionals if they can help it being armed is a bigger offense than unarmed.

    A child molester or rapist if they offend HURT people especially children, even if lower, its still too much and other offenders like flashers are obviously not as dangerous and might be normal we can separate them into a side group under the law..

    But I can fix this require as a condition of their release they have a place to live in the State and that the police can monitor if they don't they go right back to prison, in Florida they might need to live in a remote village of five in a swamp but they could live there or 'pop' back to prison.
     
  16. BillRM

    BillRM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2016
    Messages:
    6,757
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    LOL in the Miami area we have whole communities who are force to live in tents under the highway bridges that happen to be far enough away from schools and bus stops and so on to be legal for them.

    Nice as they are free to go anywhere when it is daylight just not after dark when kids are sleeping in their parents homes for the most part.
     
  17. BillRM

    BillRM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2016
    Messages:
    6,757
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
     
  18. BillRM

    BillRM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2016
    Messages:
    6,757
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cities and counties in florida are allow to set their own limits and in Miami Dade county that limit is 2500 feet which mean almost no where is it legal for them to live in the county but for such places as under a bridge in the middle of a bay.
     
  19. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,990
    Likes Received:
    1,341
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Television shares a lot of the blame. It's standard fare on shows like "Law and Order: SVU" for the cops to bring in "sex offenders" and give them the "Just confess already! We know you're still molesting children, because sex offenders never change!" grilling.
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2018
  20. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2017
    Messages:
    5,371
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    So what kind of 'laws' prohibit a 'sex offender' from getting residences in certain places? Are you meaning to be placed on the 'sex offender' registry?
     
  21. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,809
    Likes Received:
    2,341
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes Wahington state is in the US.
    I am sure they have to go in front of a judge for closure on the case, however, even if found not guilty, they have the arrest on their record, and nobody will believe you are actually innocent.
     
  22. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Messages:
    15,162
    Likes Received:
    1,667
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The bad thing is even if you are not a child molester, and never touched a child, you are treated like one.

    My friend was 18 and his 17 year old girlfriend sent him a nude picture of herself. Their relationship is actually legal, since we have a close-age-exemption, and she is technically above the age of consent, but for some reason, despite them being in a relationship and legally allowed to have sex, him having a naked picture of her was considered "child porn" and he got sent to prison for 5 years. He is now listed as a sex offender, and was homeless for 3 years because he could find a place to live.
     
  23. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,552
    Likes Received:
    5,361
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When you previously wrote 'Washington St' I thought you meant Washington Street?? :roflol:
     
  24. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,501
    Likes Received:
    3,734
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't worry, NASA is out to get you !!!
     
  25. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2017
    Messages:
    5,371
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    huh? 71 sex offenders living under the same overpass?

    I don't understand what laws prohibit sex offenders from living anywhere except from certain distances to schools.

    Florida

    § 947. 1405 (7)(a)(2)

    A sex offender whose victim was under 18 years old cannot live within 1,000 feet of schools or places where children congregate.

    What other 'sex offender' laws are there in Miami?

    "After being released from prison there are all sorts of laws prohibiting them from living near different places,"


    Laws which prohibit a prison releasee from certain things, if dealt with in passing and in light, is not good at all. Law is a very touchy subject to such releasees. They need to be shown, if shown at all, with truth and understanding and not with just passing statements of Law and offenses they committed. These sorts of empty arguments are pretty offensive to both sides of their rehabilitation . Not to mention the general public who might have no idea one way or the other to such Law(s) or requirements. And this was on ABC news?


    Residency And Work Restrictions
    State and local law impose restrictions on where certain convicted sex offenders may live after serving their sentence. Florida state law prohibits those convicted of certain sex crimes against a child under 16 years of age from living within 1,000 feet of a school, day care center, playground, park or other place frequented by children.

    Some county and municipal ordinances impose even more restrictive residency requirements. For example, in Miami-Dade County, certain registered sex offenders are prohibited from living within 2,500 feet of a school, day care center, park or playground. The county also recently added "child safety zones" to its ordinance, which prohibits sex offenders from loitering within the 300 feet extending from schools, day cares, parks and school bus stops.

    The Miami-Dade ordinance has received national attention for effectively forcing sex offenders into homelessness with over 70 offenders living underneath the Julia Tuttle Causeway Bridge. Currently, there more than 160 municipalities in Florida that impose greater residency restrictions on convicted sex offenders than required by state law.

    2500 feet is .473 miles...

    300 feet is .057 miles

    Total restriction is .530 miles.

    Miami-Dade County: 2,431 square miles. Population : 2.693 Million (2015)



    Oklahoma
    OSA Tit. 57 § 590

    A registered sex offender cannot live within 2,000 feet of a school.


    Seems like 1000 to 2000 feet seems be the 'accepted' distance with some adding additional distance to the already established distances.


    Current law requires life-time registration for those who have been convicted of certain crimes. These crimes include:

    • Kidnapping
    • False imprisonment
    • Luring or enticing a child
    • Sexual battery
    • Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors
    • Procuring person under age of 18 for prostitution
    • Selling or buying of minors into sex trafficking or prostitution
    • Lewd or lascivious offenses committed upon or in the presence of persons less than 16 years of age
    • Lewd or lascivious offenses committed upon or in the presence of an elderly person or disabled person
    • Sexual performance by a child
    • Computer pornography
    • Transmission of pornography by electronic device or equipment
    • Transmission of material harmful to minors to a minor by electronic device or equipment
    • Selling or buying of minors
    • Sexual misconduct

    https://communitylawfirm.com/Articles/Do-Florida-Sex-Offender-Registration-Requirements-Go-Too-Far/
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018

Share This Page